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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by frethop
Yeah, look what Stargate SG-1 did for the Tapwave Zodiak!
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2008-02-18
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Look out, he's on a roll!
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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by frethop
BUT-- let us not confuse successful marketing campaigns with success OF marketing campaigns.
But this does bring one of the keys to success: marketing.
Apple has created the perception that they are more pervasive than they really are. That's great for the "cool" factor, but not so much for the bottom line. In fact, were it not for a huge infusion of cash (gasp! by MICROSOFT!) years ago, Apple may very well have been a dead joke by now.
Microsoft's advertising can be dull, their products ridiculed, their current CEO compared to a witless primate... yet they still managed to eke out and maintain more OS market share than Apple. Sure Apple has mind share... and that's worth... what again?
We'll see where Android goes.
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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Apple dominates the MP3 players market. Do you think Microsoft has ANY mind share with the fabulous Zune? Zu-what?
BUT-- let us not confuse successful marketing campaigns with success OF marketing campaigns.
Apple has created the perception that they are more pervasive than they really are. That's great for the "cool" factor, but not so much for the bottom line. In fact, were it not for a huge infusion of cash (gasp! by MICROSOFT!) years ago, Apple may very well have been a dead joke by now.
Microsoft's advertising can be dull, their products ridiculed, their current CEO compared to a witless primate... yet they still managed to eke out and maintain more OS market share than Apple. Sure Apple has mind share... and that's worth... what again?
We'll see where Android goes.
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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by amigokin
Really? I'd have expected that they dominate in mindshare, but all the little, no name, also rans collectively make up a larger portion of the market.
Apple dominates the MP3 players market.
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What he ^ said
EDIT: besides, let Apple have MP3s. Eventually players will be cheaply incorporated into darn near everything, rendering that narrow market of dedicated players a fool's paradise. Like others in the thread, I was looking at computing platforms and operating systems... especially mobile ones.
Last edited by Texrat; 2008-02-18 at 20:18.
EDIT: besides, let Apple have MP3s. Eventually players will be cheaply incorporated into darn near everything, rendering that narrow market of dedicated players a fool's paradise. Like others in the thread, I was looking at computing platforms and operating systems... especially mobile ones.
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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by Texrat
If you want to use Apple vs Microsoft, you have to come up with some other statement. Microsoft is pure fashion (business fashion, sheepish herd mentality fashion, etc.), and not one lick of function.
Also, I don't believe most customers put fashion over function. Some, but not most. See: Apple's OS market share vs Microsoft's.
Old Apple was, you're right, pure fashion and not much function. But that ended with OSX. Now its fashion combined with function, which is why they're growing again.
The only thing MS has going for it is legacy inertia. Definitely not function.
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2008-02-18
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
As a longtime Microsoft developer (Visual Studio, SQL Server, etc), I have to strongly disagree. But perhaps that opinion depends on one's experiences.
If you want to use Apple vs Microsoft, you have to come up with some other statement. Microsoft is pure fashion (business fashion, sheepish herd mentality fashion, etc.), and not one lick of function.
Old Apple was, you're right, pure fashion and not much function. But that ended with OSX. Now its fashion combined with function, which is why they're growing again.
The only thing MS has going for it is legacy inertia. Definitely not function.
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