Finally direct answer for my question.
Thanks a lot.

You've misinterpreted my post. Things such as COBOL, BASIC or Pascal should not be thought at all in schools, not to mention punched cards and direct machine code - those are dead technologies, just like we'll have a numerous more in the following decades. And I certainly don't consider myself as the part of 'old-school programmers', if such a thing even exists.

Actually, I'm totally against teaching ANY language or specific technology at schools when it comes to fast-paced technologies such as IT. Why? Well, because you cannot change the educational plan and program several times a year to keep up with the IT industry. And you cannot tailor any specific sort of programmers in school. Well, you can, and then they are nothing more than developers for a specific language/platform and their profession dies as soon as that technology dies - usually within one decade thus totally diminishing the point of schooling in the first place. By the time you finish your average college/univ, the technology you started to explore in the first year might as well be dead, so apart from a huge waste of time you get nothing from it.

What should be taught at schools is how computers operate and do their 'magic'. Students, future programmers, need to understand that everything boils down to the simplest algebra function of them all - adding. No matter how many layers you put in-between, the end result is always the same. And it will remain like that at least for the next couple of decades (until quantum computing becomes a reality), which validates the reason of teaching it. They need to understand digital electronics - not in a way that electronics engineers need to, a simple block-diagrams should suffice. They need to understand the basics of programming - pseudo code is more than suitable for such purpose (at least it won't teach them some bad programming habits from which most of the languages out there suffer). They need to understand that:

and

and

Are essentially doing the same thing, it's just a matter of syntax; they only differ on the intermediary levels, and their performance depends on how close can their compilers can bring it to the essential, computer-friendly adding of two numbers. Instead of any specific implementation, future programmers can learn all that using even plain English:

Yes, this is as valid code as the previous examples. You can even write a compiler for this pseudo code and have it execute the same as C++ or Java would. Teach the stars of the future how to program and what programming is, the syntax is irrelevant - after all, in 10 years they will probably use quite different syntax that they've learned in school.

Anyway, not to get too off-topic, when I mentioned punched cards, I didn't mean that those should be taught at school, but they certainly give you a lot of perspective when it comes to programming. In today's day and age programmers rarely have the opportunity to experience what all their code boils down to, and software turned into a mysterious vapor, it's a good thing to see that your program actually does something except printing shiny pixels on a screen. You know, something physical, something you can touch and feel with all your senses. Such an experience awes any passionate programmer.

I am glad you are this kind of old-school-programmer. Because most of your colleagues biting us to death every day from any side these days
If you are flash kid you can't be serious programmer. For me their logic seems to be stack overflow if they start pointing out why.
I am usually stop listening after 1 sentence to K.I.S.S. and let my day running.

As you said and gave us cool examples essential and ability to think as programmer is matter. I would rather add one good attribute. Ability to understand the problem/question to be able to solve it. No offense here, but I think this is big issue when 2 programmer talking 2 different languages can't understand each other no because of lack of logic of both but they by nature trying to prove their experience and which one is better. This kind of program will always hang

Exactly!

One guy was studying architecture but one day decided to be a programmer without any background. Only theory and good will.
Chosen Flash because at least has architecture in mind and ability to visualize physical objects in space. in Flash could draw physical objects called MovieClips. After deal with many crazy structures and permutations to make all of it interact each other could start visualize abstracts. Then all become clear.

Just different part of brain, different senses, tools same result. Nobody before couldn't explain him what really programing is conventional way. Hi has to play with this himself, touch it and that what awes him for life

To addition to Flash Open Source aspect watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFRK4jZyX0

from 1:10

That let you open your mind a bit and you stop describing ppl based on what you think is right and true only.

The problem with using metalanguages for education is a two edged sword. You listed the advantage, which is very real - but the flip side is that your students will not be able to produce anything tangible, and, worse yet, they will not have any tech under their belt an employer can relate to.

As for old languages and tech, I must admit I’m on the conservative side and I think they should be taught. Obviously nowhere near to the extent of ’present day’ tech, but students must have the scope to see why things evolved the way did, what the mistakes were, and what the specific advantages of particular approaches are. And the reason why this should be done within the schooling system is *exactly* because this is something that they will not be able to do in ’real life’. Teaching a single master-language (whether that be C++ or Java or something else) is IMHO exactly what is creating the dinosaurs, you are teaching people to be good in one tech and (professionally) live and die with it.

I don't know how many of you really get interested about haXe. but I am following the progress and seems that guys are already targeting different platforms.

Check this out
http://haxe.1354130.n2.nabble.com/I-....html#a5329083

PalmOS and somebody even mentioned Symbian. I am sure that with this open source language for Ecma Script lovers can be definitely good alternative for Maemo if somebody here could help open the doors.