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2015-09-15 , 13:47
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tl;dr: Do you want to help upstreaming the existing N9 drivers?

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Specification of the issue

Bibliography - in post #2

As you may know, there was an initiative to update the N9/N950 kernel. [1] While the project succeeded [2] (only the GPS driver was missing), the patches were never sent upstream. This happened due to various reasons. [2]

This means that we're stuck with a 3-year-old kernel on our devices. Some of the drivers depend on closed source blobs. (which of them are needed is not documented very well)

This is a blocker for some projects. Such an example is DebiaN900, an initiative to bring native Debian to N900. If the drivers were upstreamed, this initiative would've extended to N9/N950 a long time ago. [3] In fact, wicket himself said he would support the Harmattan devices if the kernel were properly upstreamed. [4]

Would you like to help us upstream the kernel? Some cases are easy (it's just the coding style that needs fixing), some cases may be challenging. If you don't have a physical device but would like to help anyway, let us know. Maybe we'll find something for you too

Tasks pending [stage 1]:
  • create a table on elinux.org indicating which areas are possibly not covered by the upstream kernel [free for taking]
  • contact N900 kernel hackers about what has already been done by the N900 folks [free for taking]
  • add bibliography about switching to DeviceTree [free for taking]
  • developing a testing procedure [community]
Future tasks [stage 2]:
  • real kernel development [on hold]
  • real testing (N9) - peterleinchen [ for taking, multiple people]
  • real testing (N950) - marmistrz [for taking, multiple people]

Current team:
  • marmistrz [working on the BH1770 driver]
  • filip.pz [working on the N9 display]
  • hedayat (will confirm once the work has started)
  • danpio
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2015-09-15 , 13:47
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Bibliography:

[1] the N9 kernel update project: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86971
[2] information from the N9 kernel update developer: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=133
[3] wicket's post about N9/N950 support: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=129
[4] wicket about upstream kernels (N9, N900): http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=131
[5] pali about upstreaming kernels: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=134
[6] support for N9/N950 in current mainline kernel (DeviceTree): http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...64&postcount=5

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DeviceTree:
[7] DeviceTree syntax example: http://elinux.org/Device_Tree_Usage

Mods are welcome to append useful information.
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2015-09-15 , 18:37
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Currently, I cannot take any responsibility (might be able to do so later). But, if the effort started, I'll try to help in some areas.
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2015-09-15 , 18:59
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Yes. Put me on testing for N9.
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2015-09-17 , 06:32
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Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post
[*]add bibliography about switching to DeviceTree
Some device tree work has been mainlined within the last couple of years:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/ke...s/omap3-n9.dts
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/ke...omap3-n950.dts
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/ke...3-n950-n9.dtsi

This commit seems to imply that the mainline kernel is actually bootable:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/ke...737887fea9d46d

I think a good starting point would be to build a kernel from mainline and see if it boots on an N9 or N950. I would test it against either Nemo or Sailfish as it's more likely to be compatible with one of those rather than Harmattan. Of course you could also bootstrap a Debian system and try that.

Originally Posted by filippz via marmistrz View Post
Sadly both of my N9's have stopped working (both developed problems with their CMT modules, one has since been destroyed in an attempt to fix it) I've moved to Android (and no, it's not working out for me. This has reduced my interest in this project considerably, but I'm willing to help.
Anyone got a spare N9 for filippz?
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2015-09-17 , 06:38
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Anyone got a spare N9 for filippz?
No need for that. One of my N9s is functional - I jus't cant use CMT (ie no call, SMS, 3G). For some reason it just reboots after entering SIM pin (tried in Harmattan & Nemo), but everything else is fully operational.

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2015-09-17 , 06:45
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Originally Posted by filip.pz View Post
No need for that. One of my N9s is functional - I jus't cant use CMT (ie no call, SMS, 3G). For some reason it just reboots after entering SIM pin (tried in Harmattan & Nemo), but everything else is fully operational.

Thanks anyway!
Would realky love to see this developed further.
Please send me your details, and I will ship fully working N9/64G/black device to you.
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2015-09-17 , 06:49
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Originally Posted by filip.pz View Post
No need for that. One of my N9s is functional - I jus't cant use CMT (ie no call, SMS, 3G). For some reason it just reboots after entering SIM pin (tried in Harmattan & Nemo), but everything else is fully operational.

Thanks anyway!
Still, it's a shame that your interest has been reduced and you're having to use Android (far from a pleasant experience ). I think you deserve a fully working N9!
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2015-09-17 , 06:54
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Originally Posted by nieldk View Post
Would realky love to see this developed further.
Please send me your details, and I will ship fully working N9/64G/black device to you.
Thanks nieldk, but as mentioned earlier - there is no real need for that. I can use my current N9 for development (and it's has already everything set up nicely - ubiboot/easyboot paired with Harmattan/ Nemo/Sailfish).

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Still, it's a shame that your interest has been reduced and you're having to use Android (far from a pleasant experience ). I think you deserve a fully working N9!
Fully working N9 would probably be used as daily driver, and not for development What can I say - I'm weak
 

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Originally Posted by filip.pz View Post
Fully working N9 would probably be used as daily driver, and not for development What can I say - I'm weak
Feel free to use it that way
My offer stands still
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