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Those that have followed the saga so far know that I have been attempting to connect my N800 via BT to my iDEN (Nextel) handset since January of this year. >> http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=4527

Many offered possible work arounds however, there was still a problem maintaining a BT connection. Bugs were filed in Bugzilla (1095 & 1149) and although less than a handful of users voted for them, it appears the Maemo Team have corrected the root causes in OS2008’s release.

Motorola’s method for DUN on an iDEN handset is to specify “s=2” in the dial up string. This allows the GPRS connection to “piggyback” on to the phones always on connection.
Up until OS2008 the tablets would not allow the characters “s” and “=” to be entered in this string. That has changed and now any character can be entered in a new “GPRS” connection set-up!
(Only for GPRS, DATA call characters are still limited.)

The tablets options still do not include “iDEN” but there is an easy work around...


1. Go to “Control Panel” > “Phone” > select “new”.

2. While the tablet is searching, set your phone to “Find Me”

3. Pair the devices. (I use my initials to identify my phone. The default name I believe is the model number.)

4. Once the pairing is complete go to “connectivity” in the control panel.

5. Tap “connections” then “new” then next.

6. The connection name field can be anything you want. (I chose iDEN.)

7. Connection type should be “GPRS”

8. Select “next”

9. Remove the “Access point name” and change the dial up number to “s=2”

10. Remove and do not add anything in the “User name” and “Password” fields.

11. DO NOT check the “prompt password at every login” box.

12. Hit “next” then “Finish” and enjoy your new connection.


If you are using the connection Wizard select “USA” as the country and “AT&T” as the provider then follow steps 9 through 12. Your new connection will be called “AT&T” but it can be edited later.

As far as I can tell the connection is rock solid and stable. It has been connected for the past 40 minutes while I type up this post. (Yeah I know, I'm slow)









BTW, Bugzilla works, be patient and don't be afraid to use it.

>> https://bugs.maemo.org/createaccount.cgi



Recap w/images...






1. Go to “Control Panel” > “Phone” > select “new”.






4. Once the pairing is complete go to “connectivity” in the control panel.






6. The connection name field can be anything you want. (I chose iDEN.)






7. Connection type should be “GPRS”

8. Select “next”

9. Remove the “Access point name” and change the dial up number to “s=2”

10. Remove and do not add anything in the “User name” and “Password” fields.

11. DO NOT check the “prompt password at every login” box.

12. Hit “next” then “Finish” and enjoy your new connection.






If you are using the connection Wizard select “USA” as the country and “AT&T” as the provider then follow steps 9 through 12. Your new connection will be called “AT&T” but it can be edited later.


Peace.

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Ok, I took the plunge and bought up all the requisite elements from ebay to make this work. I have an i605 phone (as suggested here) and followed these instructions.

But as soon as the phone says that the n800 is connected, it then says it is disconnected. And the tablet says "Internet connection Failed."

Any and all help is much appreciated (as was the idea in the first place)! I know nothing about this phone (just got it today), so maybe there are some settings I need?
 
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What provider? Boost or Nextel? Can you access the web on the phone from it's (the phone's) browser?
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Originally Posted by lm2 View Post
Ok, I took the plunge and bought up all the requisite elements from ebay to make this work. I have an i605 phone (as suggested here) and followed these instructions.

But as soon as the phone says that the n800 is connected, it then says it is disconnected. And the tablet says "Internet connection Failed."

Any and all help is much appreciated (as was the idea in the first place)! I know nothing about this phone (just got it today), so maybe there are some settings I need?

If you were just pairing the phone, then this is normal.
You now have to use the N8**'s connection wizard and follow the steps outlined.

4. Once the pairing is complete go to “connectivity” in the control panel. (on the tablet)

5. Tap “connections” then “new” then next.

6. The connection name field can be anything you want. (I chose iDEN.)

7. Connection type should be “GPRS”

8. Select “next”

9. Remove the “Access point name” and change the dial up number to “s=2”

10. Remove and do not add anything in the “User name” and “Password” fields.

11. DO NOT check the “prompt password at every login” box.

12. Hit “next” then “Finish” and enjoy your new connection.

Last edited by YoDude; 2008-04-15 at 22:04.
 
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@bluesubaru: The provider is Boost, as suggested here.

I cannot access the phone's mobile Web. They told me that I had to subscribe to the 35 cents/day play to use that. (Although the operator I spoke with didn't seem to know a lot about the product she was selling.)

@YoDude: I did follow steps 4-12 just as you described in your original post. No luck.
 
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I'll PM you another members name.
I don't want to post it here without giving him a heads up first.
 
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
I'll PM you another members name.
I don't want to post it here without giving him a heads up first.
I followed YoDude's instructions to the letter, and it worked just fine.

When you created the connection on your N8x0, did you set the correct dialing string?

Cheers

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He's^ the dude.
 
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Thanks All. I'm fairly certain that I too followed the instructions to a T. This might mean there is something wrong with the phone, I guess. I recall YoDude saying somewhere that the wireless technology involved in pairing the n8x0 is different from the technology that the phone's web browser uses. So I suppose that means we can't use the functionality of the phone's browser as a test for whether the data stream involved in the bluetooth pair is working correctly.

Is there some other test I can run? Should I try to "walkie talkie" someone? Or send a text message?

I'm gonna be really bummed if I can't get this working...
 
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YoDude is totally right. If you want to check the connection via the in-phone browser, you'll have to pay 30 cents per day.

Just to check a few things:

1. Did you pair the N8x0 with the phone via bluetooth?
2. Once you've done this, and you setup the data connection on the Nokia, click connect. Does your Motorola phone now ring, and prompt you (yes/no) to allow the N810 to initiate a data session?
3. Did you press yes?

The service works ok, although, to be honest, it's a bit on the slow side for me. It is damn cheap though.

In the end, I decided to give up on Boost (even though it works), and have just signed up with Sprint's SERO plan. Yeah, it's $30 per month, but it's a million times faster, and includes all the calling minutes I could ever use too.

Originally Posted by lm2 View Post
I recall YoDude saying somewhere that the wireless technology involved in pairing the n8x0 is different from the technology that the phone's web browser uses. So I suppose that means we can't use the functionality of the phone's browser as a test for whether the data stream involved in the bluetooth pair is working correctly.
 
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