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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by Rushmore
As far as I know - and people feel free to correct me - you will lose all that functionality.
I ordered the N900 due to the hardware and potential of the OS. I have used a G1 for a year, but am tired of the low app memory, java layer constraint (apps are not as smooth due to this) and the lack of video codec support (due to the java layer restriction).
That being said, I do appreciate the following functions:
1. Texting using the virtual keyboard in portrait mode
2. Voice searching Google in portrait mode
3. Shopsavvy (bar code scanner)
4. Shazaam (ID's songs that it listens to and tags them)
Will I lose these functions with the N900? I would expect to see Shopsavvy and Shazaam, but if the market is not there due to not enough device sales, we may never see those apps.
I guess my main concern is the N900 may be supported almost 100% by homebrew and not by commercial development. I LOVE game emulators and ports (heavy retro gamer), so that will be cool on the N900, but what about commericial apps that also take advantage of the N900 hardware? Majority support by homebrew is great, but need Shopsavvy and Shazaam like apps too.
Please shoot my concerns down in flames
Sorry.
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2009-10-06
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It seems Nokia plans to make it very easy to share code for QT-based apps between Symbian and Maemo which would mean a lot of possible apps.
But from what I read this will not happen over night. Expect it for sure with Maemo 6. But not anytime soon.
But from what I read this will not happen over night. Expect it for sure with Maemo 6. But not anytime soon.
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2009-10-06
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I figured that Shazaam and Shopsavvy were gone, but you can not text in portrait mode using the VK or do a voice search of the internet either?
Looks like I may be going from one exteme to the other. I will now have great video support, plenty of media space and probably homebrew emulators like MAME, SNES, etc but lose basic functions that I use every day.
I already have a $85 Dingoo that plays MAME and retro console games fine, I might have to cancel my N900 purchase and wait to see what function and apps evolve with the OS.
G1 also plays MAME, SNES, GBA, Genesis, and NES good, but due the java layer, some games not as good as my $85 Dingoo.
Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-10-06 at 13:44.
Looks like I may be going from one exteme to the other. I will now have great video support, plenty of media space and probably homebrew emulators like MAME, SNES, etc but lose basic functions that I use every day.
I already have a $85 Dingoo that plays MAME and retro console games fine, I might have to cancel my N900 purchase and wait to see what function and apps evolve with the OS.
G1 also plays MAME, SNES, GBA, Genesis, and NES good, but due the java layer, some games not as good as my $85 Dingoo.
Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-10-06 at 13:44.
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Althought they sound like good feature requests!
(Although the 2D bar code that are everywhere in japan haven't really showed up in Quebec and probably the rest of North-America, a bit in Europe i think though?)
(Although the 2D bar code that are everywhere in japan haven't really showed up in Quebec and probably the rest of North-America, a bit in Europe i think though?)
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2009-10-06
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Looks like the n900 might not be for you. Looks like you are more after a gaming platform perhaps?
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2009-10-06
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Rushmore, I'm in a similar spot as you: Android vs N900. The difference is that I don't own an Android device at the moment.
There are a lot of good Android phones coming out soon (Motorola Sholes, a couple of HTC phones), and there are definitely more apps for Android than for Maemo 5. My impression from viewing the Android apps available is that the Android experience is going to be a bit better for the near future. Maemo 6 is going to be awesome, but there's some pain from here to there.
There are a lot of good Android phones coming out soon (Motorola Sholes, a couple of HTC phones), and there are definitely more apps for Android than for Maemo 5. My impression from viewing the Android apps available is that the Android experience is going to be a bit better for the near future. Maemo 6 is going to be awesome, but there's some pain from here to there.
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by mistermix
Its important to keep in mind that in theory MOST programs that run under regular linux can be cross compiled to run under maemo. Thats gives you a heck of a lot of functionality right off the bat
Rushmore, I'm in a similar spot as you: Android vs N900. The difference is that I don't own an Android device at the moment.
There are a lot of good Android phones coming out soon (Motorola Sholes, a couple of HTC phones), and there are definitely more apps for Android than for Maemo 5. My impression from viewing the Android apps available is that the Android experience is going to be a bit better for the near future. Maemo 6 is going to be awesome, but there's some pain from here to there.
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2009-10-06
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Originally Posted by Bratag
Seems like the N900 should be a good game device, but I was wanting one device that covers these points as good as possible:
Looks like the n900 might not be for you. Looks like you are more after a gaming platform perhaps?
1. Video codec support (G1 is only MP4 and no acceleration)
2. Very good audio
3. Plenty of space
4. Good second camera
5. Flash browser
N900 looks to have all these covered, but looks like I will lose basic communication functions I use everyday.
The N900 is sexy and almost pulled me in. It still might, but it certainly seems I am going from one extreme (weak hardware, good functionality as phone) to the other (STRONG hardware, but weak functionality as a phone).
Being able to text in portrait and use voice search is very handy for me.
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2009-10-06
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Bratag: Very true. The potential is huge, but the wait factor... I may need to bridge the time with the G1 and then get the N900 when the apps I need start flowing.
Mistermix: Sholes seems promising but we still have to deal with the java constraint issue. It bogs apps down and uses too many clock cycles. My inferior chipset Dingoo eats the G1 for lunch in regards to game emulation and cost $85 delivered. The chipset is better on the G1, but it is being beaten to death due to the java layer bite code translation. Also, there are no video options other than MP4 and accleration is also an issue. Seems Android does some things good, but hurts others in the process.
BTW, the low app memory is also an issue on the Sholes and every other Android device on current roadmaps.
Give us the functionality of the G1 and Android in the hardware and OS of the N900. Dang that would be sweet
Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-10-06 at 14:12.
Mistermix: Sholes seems promising but we still have to deal with the java constraint issue. It bogs apps down and uses too many clock cycles. My inferior chipset Dingoo eats the G1 for lunch in regards to game emulation and cost $85 delivered. The chipset is better on the G1, but it is being beaten to death due to the java layer bite code translation. Also, there are no video options other than MP4 and accleration is also an issue. Seems Android does some things good, but hurts others in the process.
BTW, the low app memory is also an issue on the Sholes and every other Android device on current roadmaps.
Give us the functionality of the G1 and Android in the hardware and OS of the N900. Dang that would be sweet
Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-10-06 at 14:12.
That being said, I do appreciate the following functions:
1. Texting using the virtual keyboard in portrait mode
2. Voice searching Google in portrait mode
3. Shopsavvy (bar code scanner)
4. Shazaam (ID's songs that it listens to and tags them)
Will I lose these functions with the N900? I would expect to see Shopsavvy and Shazaam, but if the market is not there due to not enough device sales, we may never see those apps.
I guess my main concern is the N900 may be supported almost 100% by homebrew and not by commercial development. I LOVE game emulators and ports (heavy retro gamer), so that will be cool on the N900, but what about commericial apps that also take advantage of the N900 hardware? Majority support by homebrew is great, but need Shopsavvy and Shazaam like apps too.
Please shoot my concerns down in flames
Last edited by Rushmore; 2009-10-06 at 13:18.