symbian ceo calls google evil and says apple is just greedy. http://symbian-freak.com/news/009/10..._is_google.htm

In other breaking news, Coca Cola says that "Pepsi doesn't taste good" and McDonald's calls Wendy's "gross".

Here is the other Symbian related news

Andrew Tanenbaum of Minix fame:
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Move to off-topic, please.

you ok? You dont need a hug or anything?

I was wondering what was going to happen to symbian after the N900. Obviously they were going to make it open source, i mean what else could they do...

But isn't the symbian CEO a bit worried?

Man, that dude didn't see any of the last ten trains that ran over his AZZ!

i agree with him on some points but i dont know about google being evil. i like s60 i just think the ui was a little dated.

Kudos for him (I mean it, in the future people will question Google products unconsciously).

Currently all S60v5 devices from Nokia (all of them, even despite of the price differences) share the same CPU and the same amount of RAM, which makes the platform a bit easier to program for, but on the other side, it gives less choise for the consumer.

Symbian Foundation and Horizon are certainly steps in the right direction for success in America, which is something Nokia might desperately need right now. The carrier situation does suck in America, though.

Google is evil. Believe me.

About S60 being "dated"... I don't know. A UI interface is a tool that should work. Like a hammer and a screwdriver; it only has to perform a lot more tasks than these simple, specialized tools.

The appearance of a hammer hasn't changed much over the last decades, so I assume nobody considers the looks of a hammer "dated" and feels the urge to add plush tassels for a change.

Same with a UI. S60 is probably close to ideal. It has one advantage over the new shining stars that is hardly ever discussed: S60 is designed for and works best on real phones, phones without touchscreens that is. Soft buttons, a d-pad, a numeric keypad... Over the years, this combiation has turned out to be the ideal physical UI for a tiny mobile device. S60 is the one GUI that - in my experience - best supports these devices. Android and the OSX-version running on iPhones don't. (RIM has non-touchscreen models, but I feel uncomfortable with their UI.)

It's true that touchscreen operation is new and S60 (even S60v5) isn't optimized for touch screens. But then... Are touch screens optimized for human hands? Are touch phones the real workhorses for people who need the functions on their mobile phones to be always accessible? Or are they toys for those who can always wait until they have both hands free and can concentrate on the screen before they operate their devices?

I'm having difficulties operating touch based devices on the go. I see they're cool with the kids, but I also see that even these kids sit down and use both hands to perform whatever simple task.

I believe it's wrong to write off S60 too early. Right, it didn't bring much innovation recently, but this could be because there was little need to change anything.