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2008-09-18
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Please remember to search before starting new threads.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card
http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card
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2008-09-18
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What they don't mention very clearly in these threads is this:
You cannot use flash for OS storage unless you boot from flash!
And that stinks.
You cannot use flash for OS storage unless you boot from flash!
And that stinks.
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2008-09-19
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Originally Posted by retrow
I think it's possible to free up some internal memory just moving existing directories to the 2gb memory (/media/mmc2) and linking them with ln -s.
I'm running out of space for installed programs. Now if I want to add a few more applications, I would have to use additional memory. Is it possible to instruct the application manager to install the programs under the 2GB memory instead of the 256MB flash?
Thanks.
I didn't try yet, though.
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2008-09-19
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Originally Posted by Hargoth
Actually, you can, but why would you want to? It's slower, harder to set up, harder to keep going once it's set up, much more prone to breakage, less stable, and gives you significantly shorter battery life.
You cannot use flash for OS storage unless you boot from flash!
And that stinks.
Why, exactly, would you want to use a method with all of those pitfalls over one that's easy to set up, very stable, and actually gives you performance benefits?
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2008-09-19
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Why is it slower? We're talking about using symbolic links? And why the difference in battery life? And while I'm at it, the performance benefits are due to the faster sd clock?
It is harder to set up, harder to keep going, more prone to breakage. I could go either way on stability subject to the above points.
thanks,
Frank
It is harder to set up, harder to keep going, more prone to breakage. I could go either way on stability subject to the above points.
thanks,
Frank
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Actually, you can, but why would you want to? It's slower, harder to set up, harder to keep going once it's set up, much more prone to breakage, less stable, and gives you significantly shorter battery life.
Why, exactly, would you want to use a method with all of those pitfalls over one that's easy to set up, very stable, and actually gives you performance benefits?
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2008-09-19
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If things are getting really tight, it's best to move your documents to flash. I'd have to check, but most of my folders within my "User" folder are sim-linked to flash.
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2008-09-19
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I am afraid i don't understand your reply and it seems others also don't.
The question was whether it's possible to move parts to the sd card and someone said no, only the entire system can be moved to the card. You say it is possible, but it's e.g. slower than copying the entire system and draws more power and is less reliable.
Please, why is
- copying parts instead of everthing slower?
- why draws copying parts instead of everything more power?
- why is copying parts less reliable?
That doesn't make sense to me. Especially the reliability issue makes no sense to me. You suggest that the sd card is less reliable than the internal flash. Why should that be? It's just hardware controlled nand memory versus software controlled. And you claim the software controlled is more reliable?
Or am i misunderstanding your entire post?
MoG
Last edited by Master of Gizmo; 2008-09-19 at 20:32.
The question was whether it's possible to move parts to the sd card and someone said no, only the entire system can be moved to the card. You say it is possible, but it's e.g. slower than copying the entire system and draws more power and is less reliable.
Please, why is
- copying parts instead of everthing slower?
- why draws copying parts instead of everything more power?
- why is copying parts less reliable?
That doesn't make sense to me. Especially the reliability issue makes no sense to me. You suggest that the sd card is less reliable than the internal flash. Why should that be? It's just hardware controlled nand memory versus software controlled. And you claim the software controlled is more reliable?
Or am i misunderstanding your entire post?
MoG
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Actually, you can, but why would you want to? It's slower, harder to set up, harder to keep going once it's set up, much more prone to breakage, less stable, and gives you significantly shorter battery life.
Why, exactly, would you want to use a method with all of those pitfalls over one that's easy to set up, very stable, and actually gives you performance benefits?
Last edited by Master of Gizmo; 2008-09-19 at 20:32.
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2008-09-20
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No one has answered the first poster.
Basically we don't want to change where the OS is, we just want to install apps to the 2gb internal drive or the external card.
I'm sure there is a FAQ somewhere if someone could just point us.
Its 1 of 2 things:
1. Either changing the symbolic link of something like USR (but are programs spread over more then set of root folders) ?
2. Or its the setup of the application manager.
If anyone finds it please post
rgds
Basically we don't want to change where the OS is, we just want to install apps to the 2gb internal drive or the external card.
I'm sure there is a FAQ somewhere if someone could just point us.
Its 1 of 2 things:
1. Either changing the symbolic link of something like USR (but are programs spread over more then set of root folders) ?
2. Or its the setup of the application manager.
If anyone finds it please post
rgds
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2008-09-21
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Ok: Yes, this is possible. You need to reformat your internal memory card to a filesystem linux can run programs of and that maemo supports. This would e.g. be the ext3 file system. You can then link to applications there or link to entire directories.
But you need to make sure that you don't move anything there that's needed before the memory card is mounted. I haven't tested this, but you might run into such trouble when moving the entire /usr there.
When don't you just try it. You can always reflash the unit if something fails.
But you need to make sure that you don't move anything there that's needed before the memory card is mounted. I haven't tested this, but you might run into such trouble when moving the entire /usr there.
When don't you just try it. You can always reflash the unit if something fails.
Thanks.