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Hello,

I am not sure if this is happening since I updated the Maemo OS 2 days ago but, within one night with my phone connected to the 3G, I used the all 500MB allowance that I had! (O2 UK Pay&Go).
The phone was just connected to skype and checking email every 10 minutes.

I then switched to T-Mobile UK Pay as you Go and noticed right away on my online bill that, every 3 minutes, 1,610KB are downloaded onto my device and i have NO IDEA which application is using it.

I disabled all IM accounts, all email accounts, disabled the GPS, I tried to delete de FB widget.... as soon as I connect to the 3G network, I start receiving always the same amount of data and every 3 minutes.

Any idea of what application, maybe running in the background, could cause that?

I have:
3G/2G?dual mode selection widget
anglemeter
call forwarding applet
callnotify
countdown timer
currency converter
dial central
eightyone
extra decoders support
extra protocol plugins for conversations and contacts
Facebook Desktop widget
Facebook sharing plugin
facebook widget ad photo uploader
fAPN
feedservice-plugin-fb-common
feedservice2
File transfers
Flashlight
FM radio player
Gonvert
Google Voice plugin for conversation and calls
Hermes
Level
Mediabox Media center
mediabox-youtube
Midnight commander
Mirror
morphoquickpanorama
MSN protocol plugin for conversations and contacts
Ogg support
OMWeather (update every 4 hours)
pianobar
Pudgin extra protocols
Pixelpipe
Pypianobar
qikrootsh
sharing plugin for picasa web
sib
subtitles support
systeminfowidget
TouchSearch
tubes
TuneWiki
zoutube


Thanks a lot for your help!

Last edited by jujuinla; 2010-05-30 at 02:42.
 
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#2
How about you try this

1) turn off cellular radio
2) turn on wifi
3) monitor traffic over wifi

because you have a crapload of stuff that could easily be using some data in the background. 500MB seems like a lot for bg noise, more like you downloaded some large packages or something. Maybe a video chat? Streaming video on the web?
 
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#3
I did that and it seems that it's only downloading such amount of data when it's on 3G. The wifi doesn't seem to have this problem.

I didn't watch anything or had any video calls. The only fact that I am connected to the 3G and the counter starts running (using the Dataplan monitor).
This is a new problem that came after the Maemo update, it looks like...

Here how it shows on the "recent use" T-Mobile page:
29/05/2010 20:16:12 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 181 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 20:15:24 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1601 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 20:12:18 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1602 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 20:08:48 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1601 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 20:05:26 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1601 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 20:02:26 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1601 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 19:59:19 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1602 Kb £0.00
29/05/2010 19:56:04 1000 TMO Network Coupon 2101 QOS1000 1601 Kb £0.00
 
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#4
Install wireshark, and see where the data is going.
 

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#5
Hi Siperkin,
Thanks for your help, I didn't know this app.
Using it, I found at that my phone keeps communicating with an IP address like 66.102.9.103 or 66.102.9.xxx, which is, I found out, GOOGLE in California...

The protocol used are:
* TCP (https > [ACK] Seq=1274 Ack=5793 Win=17424 Len=0 TVS=82081)
* TLSv1 (Application data OR client Key Exchange, change cipher spec, encrypted handshake me)

So could it be from my Gmail addresses that I have set up in my email program? I disabled the automatic updates though...

The other "google" apps I have are Google voice plugin, Google talk (disabled), Touchsearch and Dialcentral...

Any lead please?

Last edited by jujuinla; 2010-05-30 at 15:53.
 
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Originally Posted by jujuinla View Post
Hi Siperkin,
Thanks for your help, I didn't know this app.
Using it, I found at that my phone keeps communicating with an IP address like 66.102.9.103 or 66.102.9.xxx, which is, I found out, GOOGLE in California...

The protocol used are:
* TCP (https > [ACK] Seq=1274 Ack=5793 Win=17424 Len=0 TVS=82081)
* TLSv1 (Application data OR client Key Exchange, change cipher spec, encrypted handshake me)

So could it be from my Gmail addresses that I have set up in my email program? I disabled the automatic updates though...

The other "google" apps I have are Google voice plugin, Google talk (disabled), Touchsearch and Dialcentral...

Any lead please?
Any chance you have GPS on? Could be the agps/coarse location data exchanges.
 

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#7
Hi schettj,

I disabled the GPS and Network position as well with no change.
I also ruled out my Gmail addresses, Touchsearch and Google Talk IM.

Would it be possible that it is just an automatic ping generated by my phone or by any app?
Using wireshark, I could identify the ip address as 169.102.9.xx, which is www.google.com
But it seems to a be a constant communication between my phone and this server so the amount of data gets really high, reported as 1601kb by my carrier every 3 minutes.
I contacted T-Mobile and they told me they would look into it but I think it's coming from my phone, as I have the same problem when using Wi-Fi.

This is really bugging me...
 
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Originally Posted by jujuinla View Post
Would it be possible that it is just an automatic ping generated by my phone or by any app?
It's most definitely an app you are running, there is just no way for me to figure out which. Any widgets running?
 
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#9
That is what I was thinking.

I only have OMWeather, Facebook and TuneWiki widgets on my desktop. I took them off and the data activity is still going on, on Wireshark.

Bascially, no widgets, no email, no IM, no web, no GPS, no app running... nothing. And this is still happening. Could it be from Maemo? I started to have this problem after updating.
 
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#10
Have you tried an
Code:
lsof -i4
from the command line? That should give you a list of open network connections and which process they belong to. Maybe that could give you a clue what's going on.
 

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