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Indoor performance decayed at 400 meters? How big is his house?
 
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more like, when one was 400 meters or more from the antenna, signal was noticeably weaker inside a house then outside.

sounds similar to what i have read about umts installations, where they found that urban areas needed a forest of antennas, and even then the signal was poor inside buildings (but then most of those are reinforced concrete or similar).

im not sure LTE will be any better if its forced to run on the same high frequencies as wimax or umts. basically as the frequency goes up, signal penetration drops...

hell i have experienced degradation on satellite signals in heavy snow or rain, or if a tree is in the way...
 

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more like, when one was 400 meters or more from the antenna, signal was noticeably weaker inside a house then outside.
I know, it was a joke

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im not sure LTE will be any better if its forced to run on the same high frequencies as wimax or umts. basically as the frequency goes up, signal penetration drops...
Indeed. Whatever the technology in use, they don't change the laws governing radio wave propagation.
 
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I know, it was a joke
ah, silly me. thats what i get for trying to get my sleep pattern back into something resembling a socially acceptable pattern.

Indeed. Whatever the technology in use, they don't change the laws governing radio wave propagation.
yep, there is no escaping the laws of physicals, sadly...

now, maybe if we find a way to set up quantum entanglement at a distance. still, thats just exchanging one set of laws for another. still, its one of the most wacky laws out there imo...
 
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Ah, not again... You know, the next technology after LTE will probably come two years after the two years... Why not wait for it instead?
 
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So much talk and hype but all I care about is reality. I'm curious about WiMAX or anything not tied to the cell companies or their pricing based on application. The new and improved and to 'rival' wired DSL/cable 3G/4G/blahG doesn't interest me in the slightest since it is just a faster version of what is already out there. I'm not avoiding xG because of speed but because of who runs it and how it is priced. Yep, I'm in Kanada and as such I don't own a cell phone so have zero interest in a faster data plan over a cell provider.

I want mobile internet, period. I don't want to pay these jokers for individual services such as phone, text, so called browsing, etc, I just want IP and then I'll run whatever I want over it based on a bandwidth cap. WiMAX promises that but the cell incumbents are doing all they can to kill that promise even when they are the actual providers. Promised me city wide wireless access and then only provided rural service (but good they did at least that) or a service that only runs over their locked down brick modems.

So all the news about the demise of this or the promise of that is just noise to me. When something is available here and now I'll listen.
 
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A blend of WiMAX and wifi could solve the problem cited. Seamless handoff would be the main hurdle, but not insurmountable.

Also, as previously noted, the Australian rant needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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While I don't put a lot of faith into the Australian article, I'm looking forward to LTE. Both AT&T and Verizon are planning LTE rollouts on their recently acquired 700MHz blocks within a couple of years. Verizon (in conjunction with Vodaphone) has stated that they plan to start testing LTE this year, in hopes of a 2010 launch. From what I've seen on respective wikipedia pages, LTE looks faster, and I'm not sure how much faith I have in Sprint rolling out WiMax in the near future (as they've been saying that they'll start since mid last year, and we were supposed to have it here in Boston pretty close to now).

So, I'll probably end up with an LTE Android phone alongside my n800. The new n810 sounds really cool, but I'm not sure if they'll roll WiMax out before LTE becomes available. Plus, I don't want to part with the storage capacity of my n800.

I'm looking forward to a more usable mobile internet. Currently, with Verizon, all that is really usable is loading static pages, sometimes streaming music. I haven't ever had a fast enough connection to watch any streaming video without waiting until the entire thing loads first.
 
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Both AT&T and Verizon are planning LTE rollouts on their recently acquired 700MHz blocks within a couple of years. Verizon (in conjunction with Vodaphone) has stated that they plan to start testing LTE this year, in hopes of a 2010 launch.

From what I've seen on respective wikipedia pages, LTE looks faster, and I'm not sure how much faith I have in Sprint rolling out WiMax in the near future (as they've been saying that they'll start since mid last year, and we were supposed to have it here in Boston pretty close to now).
That's what I'm talking about, on the one hand you state the provider promises then on the other state the previous promises that failed to come true yet. I don't read or believe anything coming from the big boyz. It isn't about one being a little faster than the other, they are both fast enough.

These companies aren't going to give us what we really want unless they are forced to by somebody new and less evil (looking at you google). Why would they give us something like the internet you get at home (even at *only* 1-3Mb) when they can ding you .15 each way for a text message and .05/kb for data and gawd forbid you want to tether which then means mortgage the house.

North America might be use to these tactics but I'm not and choose not to use any of the existing services other than simple internet from a real ISP. My N8 works peachy as my primary phone and entertainment device over WiFI, getting it to be even more moble just like all those bogus ads would be sweet.
 
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