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Hi,
folks on here seem to know a lot about batteries and im wondering
if there is such a thing as a "D" cell NiMH "battery bank" where you
just plug in rechargeable D - NiMH batts into some kind of a case
that would power/charge a Nokia N800 or even a laptop computer..

These D cell NiMH rechargeables are up to 12,000 mAH capacity
now, just four of them would equal my laptop's standard battery
and would be fairly convenient to use for that application or
for charging my N800....i have searched the internet, cant find
or dont know what they would be called, anyone have any
thoughts?
 
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You can make one yourself if you want by frankensteining some D cell holders from radioshack and the circuitry from a 4xAA "battery bank".
 
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It would make for an interesting project to be able to cobble 8 'D' cells together with the AA battery bank and run it as a mobile power pack from one's backpack/knapsack. I wonder how many hours of power that would provide with video running.
 
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24000ma

The included batter is 1500ma, so that is 16 times as much. If the standard battery does 2.5 hours of video, this would give 40hours. So you could basically run it straight for 2-3 days.
 
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Right, so 4 'D' sized batteries would be just about right for a full day's travelling. I'm assuming that video playback causes a spike in power consumption, so choosing the right kind of battery (Li-ion? NiMh? Alkaline) would play a part in day-long video playback.

What do you think?
 
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My newest rechargable D cells have less total energy storage than my newest AA batteries. It's counter intuitive. But the industry seems motivated by volume to work on AAs, and so D cells haven't moved forward as fast.

I wish my electric socks used a pair of AAs instead of a single D. That would give me more than twice the endurance. They'd last all night (i do astronomy). And, they wouldn't stick out from my legs so much.

The battery inside the Nokia is 1500 maH. One might think that a single AA, at 2400 maH is better. And it might be. But energy is watts * time, and watts = amps * volts, and i have no idea what voltage the internal battery generates. Why does it have 4 pins? If it were just a battery, why not have two? Anyway, at the moment, all i know for sure is that i don't know the answers. Usually, you don't know what you don't know.

This rating in maH drives me nuts, since i think i'm interested in total energy. For example, AA disposable batteries say that they're 1.5 volts. If you measure a new one you often get 1.6 or more, and an older one might be 1.1 volts. Rechargable NiMH say they're 1.3 volts, but a new fully charged one might be 1.7 volts. And, under high load, NiMH holds voltage better than disposables, which makes a difference in cameras. But is it 1500 maH at 1.3 volts or 1500 ma at whatever the voltage happens to be? I generally punt the math and just see how long it lasts in a real device. That was the real question anyway.

I probably do know what the voltage is. It came up in another thread.
 
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Originally Posted by jfd15 View Post
These D cell NiMH rechargeables are up to 12,000 mAH capacity now, just four of them would equal my laptop's standard battery and would be fairly convenient to use for that application or for charging my N800....
Only if your laptop battery is 1.5V instead of ~12V (typical from back when they were all NiMH, not real sure what voltage they stack Li-ion cells to). I guarantee they're NOT 1.5V, though.

TANSTAAFL. Did you really think something that's smaller than your laptop battery and costs less would give better performance?

But as drizek points out, a 1.5V cell's a 1.5V cell, so substituting C or D for AA or AAA cells will work. Substitute parallel gangs for single cells if you need more...
 
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Originally Posted by suitti View Post
My newest rechargable D cells have less total energy storage than my newest AA batteries.
Either you've got a magic source for AA's or you're not buying full D's. If you can get 10,000mah AA's do tell where you're buying them! I suspect you just got ahold of some of those lame D2 batteries that Energizer is foisting on us.Don't buy D2's or C2's! They're not full capacity batteries!

Dig around on the web. You can get 12K mah D cells, and C cells that reach up int the 8-9k mah range. They cost about $10 per cell, though.
 
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Originally Posted by timepilot84 View Post
Dig around on the web. You can get 12K mah D cells, and C cells that reach up int the 8-9k mah range. They cost about $10 per cell, though.
Really? 12K? Time to build my own 4xD charger then. I'll keep the circuitry from my 4xAA charger and just cobble a bigger housing together.
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Here is where I get all my NiMH batteries. I pop for the low discharge type since it can be weeks to months between uses on some devices.

Here are some D-cell 10,000mA NiMH:

http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/a...ni0cci7f6g3n90

I have never used that brand nor ever used D-cells. I recently read some info on using them instead...it was one of the "...wow, I could have had a V8..." moments...

I always use the Sanyo Eneloop batteries, AAA & AA, and they will hold almost a full charge after a year on the shelf.

I am sure they will also have some regular, but good quality, D-cells in the 12,000mA range...plus their prices are excellent as far as I can tell. Better than RadioShaft for certain.
 
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