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2007-02-21
, 16:59
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Hi, I did connect with my N800 in France to Airport-equipped Mac (no WEP). No problem at all to get on the Internet. Imac it was, very recent (1 month purchase).
Has to be something else...
Good luck
S
Has to be something else...
Good luck
S
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2007-02-21
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@ Netherlands
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Seb, exactly what did you do to get succesful connection?
I'm trying to connect via 'Internet Sharing', thru the inboard Airport-card in an also recent iMacIntel. I can connect via an Airport basestation succesfully, or any (open) hotspots in my area for that matter, just not by 'Internet Sharing', thus by internal Airport card ...
Harry
I'm trying to connect via 'Internet Sharing', thru the inboard Airport-card in an also recent iMacIntel. I can connect via an Airport basestation succesfully, or any (open) hotspots in my area for that matter, just not by 'Internet Sharing', thus by internal Airport card ...
Harry
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2007-02-21
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Originally Posted by itsharry
on my n800 nothing at all. i just searched for the wifi connections selected the one, voila. on the Imac nothing at all either. just started browsing. i could ask for the settings of the imac and airport to be sent to me.
Seb, exactly what did you do to get succesful connection?
I'm trying to connect via 'Internet Sharing', thru the inboard Airport-card in an also recent iMacIntel. I can connect via an Airport basestation succesfully, or any (open) hotspots in my area for that matter, just not by 'Internet Sharing', thus by internal Airport card ...
Harry
but the obstacle you describe might indicate either an old style adsl connection (the one requiring a log-in authentication ot the subscriber) or cable-tv internet : in finland, its impossible to connect a secundary device to internet on some cable modems...policy of the cable provider (again specific of the early wifi age, when internet providers feared to see clusters of users for free sucking on one point). last possibility: no internet connection: wifi works fine,but you re stopped. there's a specific notice from the connection wizard on the tablet though. happened to me once.
hope this helps...
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2007-02-22
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing; in order to connect to the internet over a wifi-connection using only an *internal* Airport-card you have to set/configure 'Internet Sharing' on your mac (I suppose this will set the card in 'ad-hoc' mode). I can succesfully connect to the internet (using the same ISP) using an external basestation, which I borrowed for the occasion.
There is a thread here which shows how to make it work for the 770, but on following the same procedure (setting IP/router/DNS IP-adresses manually) on the 800 I still get a 'Network Problem' ... puzzled ...
There is a thread here which shows how to make it work for the 770, but on following the same procedure (setting IP/router/DNS IP-adresses manually) on the 800 I still get a 'Network Problem' ... puzzled ...
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2007-02-22
, 12:50
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Originally Posted by itsharry
Correct. My mistake, sorry. I connected to the external airport of the Imac. I did not think why would one want to connect through internal airport since one can do it through the external one so easily. So I replied too fast.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing; in order to connect to the internet over a wifi-connection using only an *internal* Airport-card you have to set/configure 'Internet Sharing' on your mac (I suppose this will set the card in 'ad-hoc' mode). I can succesfully connect to the internet (using the same ISP) using an external basestation, which I borrowed for the occasion.
There is a thread here which shows how to make it work for the 770, but on following the same procedure (setting IP/router/DNS IP-adresses manually) on the 800 I still get a 'Network Problem' ... puzzled ...
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2007-02-22
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There is something not quite right about the DHCP server that's in OSX I've now dealt with 3 devices that will not work via Wifi internet connection sharing. Each of these devices issues the same set of DHCP messages and not one works.
Here's how another computer does it
Comp1 : DCHP DISCOVER on IPxxxxx
Comp2 : DCHP ACK
Comp1 : DHCP REQUEST on IPxxxxx
Comp2 : DHCP LEASE
that works fine. But Nintendo DS, Belkin wifi skype phone and the N800 all fail to issue the DHCP request. Seemingly this isn't a problem with most base stations as they seem to issue a lease based entirely on receiving a DISCOVER.
In theory, allocating a fixed IP to the device should get around this problem. However it seems that after a given period of time the wifi on the mac stops responding and the only way to get it going again is to turn the wifi off and on again.
I've been trying to investigate replacing the inbuilt DHCP server with something else that might be a little more lax in how it works so far no-one else seems to have attempted it and my Unix skills have dried up a lot in the last few years of using a mac.
Here's how another computer does it
Comp1 : DCHP DISCOVER on IPxxxxx
Comp2 : DCHP ACK
Comp1 : DHCP REQUEST on IPxxxxx
Comp2 : DHCP LEASE
that works fine. But Nintendo DS, Belkin wifi skype phone and the N800 all fail to issue the DHCP request. Seemingly this isn't a problem with most base stations as they seem to issue a lease based entirely on receiving a DISCOVER.
In theory, allocating a fixed IP to the device should get around this problem. However it seems that after a given period of time the wifi on the mac stops responding and the only way to get it going again is to turn the wifi off and on again.
I've been trying to investigate replacing the inbuilt DHCP server with something else that might be a little more lax in how it works so far no-one else seems to have attempted it and my Unix skills have dried up a lot in the last few years of using a mac.
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2007-03-02
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Hi!
I'm newbie with N800, But I have had Macs 3 years. However, I found one workaround for that problem by doing some Googling: (there was exactly same problem with Sony PSP and Nintendo DS)
So, because it's recognized that there is a problem with DCHP, you have to setup IPs etc. manually. You can try my setup:
IP: 10.0.2.11 (Ip given by you)
GW: 10.0.2.1 (computer's adress which is sharing the net)
NMASK: 255.255.255.0
DNS: 10.0.2.1
(Soooo simple, isn' it?)
.. That's all. One step yet: you have to restart wireless sharing on your OSX.
Voila! It works. I'm currently listening netradio via my new N800 through connection shared by MiniMac
I'm newbie with N800, But I have had Macs 3 years. However, I found one workaround for that problem by doing some Googling: (there was exactly same problem with Sony PSP and Nintendo DS)
So, because it's recognized that there is a problem with DCHP, you have to setup IPs etc. manually. You can try my setup:
IP: 10.0.2.11 (Ip given by you)
GW: 10.0.2.1 (computer's adress which is sharing the net)
NMASK: 255.255.255.0
DNS: 10.0.2.1
(Soooo simple, isn' it?)
.. That's all. One step yet: you have to restart wireless sharing on your OSX.
Voila! It works. I'm currently listening netradio via my new N800 through connection shared by MiniMac
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2007-03-02
, 13:40
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If it sets it up in Ad-Hoc mode, doesn't it disconnect from the WiFi network and then only set up a peer network, and thus requiring you to then connect to the Internet via another method, say ethernet to your DSL ISP connection?
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2007-03-02
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Originally Posted by larux
Hi!
I'm newbie with N800, But I have had Macs 3 years. However, I found one workaround for that problem by doing some Googling: (there was exactly same problem with Sony PSP and Nintendo DS)
So, because it's recognized that there is a problem with DCHP, you have to setup IPs etc. manually. You can try my setup:
IP: 10.0.2.11 (Ip given by you)
GW: 10.0.2.1 (computer's adress which is sharing the net)
NMASK: 255.255.255.0
DNS: 10.0.2.1
(Soooo simple, isn' it?)
.. That's all. One step yet: you have to restart wireless sharing on your OSX.
Voila! It works. I'm currently listening netradio via my new N800 through connection shared by MiniMac
That was simple, and yesss, it works! I did roughly the same thing: manual setting, but DNS IP from `dig`, broadcast 255.255.0.0, as laid out by some other 770 thread in here, which didn't work for the 800. Router and DNS host being the same IP makes sense.
Thanks a lot!
I was wondering if anyone succeeded in connecting to internet via an Airport-equipped Mac, by using Mac OS X 'Internet Sharing'?
By following the wizards suggestions I got connected by a local IP link, or IP-local link, which won't allow further communication.
By setting IP/router/DNS addresses manually on the N800, I got what seems a normal connection; when using it however, I get a 'Network Problem'. It doesn't matter if I switch off firewall or WEP, the error remains.
Additional settings, as suggested here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107653
didn't help either.
Any suggestions?
thx, Harry