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I'm trying to sell one of my textbook so I listed it on a site. I get an email asking me for the price and condition of the book. I replied stating $80 cash and I'll give him some other things for the course. I got this today.

Hello ,
Thanks for the reply and the rate given.I will pay you $80,but payment is going to be made through a money order which is going to be issued to you in your name.The money order is going to be for the book and shipping fee meaning you will be receiving excess payment...As soon as you receive the money order you
take it to your bank and cash it,then you deduct your $80 from it and help me send the remaining money via western union money transfer to the shipper that will come to your location for pickup don't mind giving you extra $10 for your running around and keeping it pending on when the shipper will come and pick it up.Now kindly get back to me with your full contact details below so that the money order can be issued out asap

Your real name.........
Street address...........
City...............
Province..............
Postal code............
Your phone number.............

Awaiting your response ASAP today
Robbie
I've sold books before. It's usually meeting at campus and it's a straight exchange. Money for book.

So how does this scam work. And better yet, what's a creative way to scam the scammer?
 
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Western Union is always a scam.
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This is probably a scam. This is how I think it's done: You charge $80 for the book, they send you a money order for say $200. You cash it in and take your money for the book. You then hand the "additional cash" and the book to the person showing up at yours. Later when the bank tries to process this money order, it is discovered as a fake. So you have lost your book and $200.
 
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Yep,

Scam. Nothing wrong with Western Union by the way (apart from the fees). I've sold some stuff on eBay and someone from outside the UK wanted me to ship to them (even though I said UK only).

They offered to pay by Western Union. I went to an agent got paid in Cash (it was a couple of hundred pounds I think).

Can't really scam cash...

Problem is, they arn't paying you by western union. They just want you to send them payment by it (so you can't scam them )

Just them you don't trust money orders and ask them if they could pay by Western Union instead and you would send them the excess payment back the same way.

Bet you don't hear from them again.

Zuber (Ex N810 owner)

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Yup. Go Google and look up "Western Union money order" and you'll see.
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Interesting.

So I take it this is differnet (a money order) to what I had.

I literally went to a shop with a Western Union logo and gave them a reference number, proof of identity and they just handed over some real bank notes.

I think they said that for larger sums, they would issue a cheque. Since the cheque would be from the western union agent, I can't see how they could scam you...

Sounds like what you are talking about are "Fake" money orders ?

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Here is a description of the scam:

http://www.lets-ride.com/classifieda...s/thescams.htm
 
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Never send/recieve money orders from a stranger. Money orders are for sending money to your family, not for deals where you need a way to retrieve the money if something happens, and it makes you vulnerable to a series of scams.
 
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Agreed.... I am a western union agent, and I can tell you that we get training to avoid a huge list of scams.....
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Scammers (and legitimate people) use Western Union because it doesn't have Paypal's feature of "if you're not happy, we'll refund the money." So, you get a bad money order. You deposit it and think you have money. You use Western Union to send off the left-overs to the scammer and ship your book. A few days later, the bank discovers you deposited a fraudulent money order and removes the deposited amount from your account. You can't "repeal" the Western Union transaction and you can't call back your package. Scammer has book and money, and you have squat.

Wester Union is used as a scam by SELLERS. You, as the victim buyer, wires them money....and they send you squat. Now you have to go to the police.

- Jim
 
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