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2009-11-13
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I completely agree. IMAP IDLE is the proper way.
I for one won't be using some silly "Nokia Messaging account".
However, I don't know how the situation is with the email client, or what's going to happen in the future. Will look closer when I get my N900. If the email client is open it'll get fixed.
I for one won't be using some silly "Nokia Messaging account".
However, I don't know how the situation is with the email client, or what's going to happen in the future. Will look closer when I get my N900. If the email client is open it'll get fixed.
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2009-11-13
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Originally Posted by lma
hmm that is really bad.. hopefully this will be fixed somehow in modest or by using another email client..
IDLE support is disabled, feel free to vote.
that it is a power management issue is in my eyes bogus.. Because idle should be blocking IO which doesnt cost any cpu cycles and when i now want the same thing as idle i have to poll every minute or so.. That would really affect my battery..
As i said in the bug comment, i use the E90 now with profimail and imap idle and i can use the E90 for 2 days like this without a charge..
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2009-11-13
, 16:48
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
The bug report does not say that IDLE is a power waster per se, but it is stating that IDLE support in Modest has been turned off as it wastes power in the implementation in modest (or rather in the tinymail backend). Which should be fixed ASAP, yes.
that it is a power management issue is in my eyes bogus.. Because idle should be blocking IO which doesnt cost any cpu cycles and when i now want the same thing as idle i have to poll every minute or so.. That would really affect my battery..
As i said in the bug comment, i use the E90 now with profimail and imap idle and i can use the E90 for 2 days like this without a charge..
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2009-11-13
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Is this going to be the same problem for Mail for Exchange?
By the way Nokia Messaging is just a proxy for your email account, you don't need to set up another email account to use it.
Mike C
By the way Nokia Messaging is just a proxy for your email account, you don't need to set up another email account to use it.
Mike C
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2009-11-13
, 20:59
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Oh come on...! Disabeling it all the way is no fun!
I understand it's somehow poorly implemented, ok, grated. But hey Nokia, can't you just turn it off and hide the checkbox to enable it really really well? So in the end the user turning it on will be conscious of what he is doing to his battery, but he wants it that way, so give him the way. Psh... disabeling IMAP-idle... party poopers..!
Ok, seriously, why not displaying some warning popup upon activation or putting the checkbox to enable it in some fancy dialog to make the user aware of the issues surrounding IMAP-idle at the moment? Would be better than just cutting it out...
I understand it's somehow poorly implemented, ok, grated. But hey Nokia, can't you just turn it off and hide the checkbox to enable it really really well? So in the end the user turning it on will be conscious of what he is doing to his battery, but he wants it that way, so give him the way. Psh... disabeling IMAP-idle... party poopers..!
Ok, seriously, why not displaying some warning popup upon activation or putting the checkbox to enable it in some fancy dialog to make the user aware of the issues surrounding IMAP-idle at the moment? Would be better than just cutting it out...
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2009-11-13
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Originally Posted by mikec
Is this going to be the same problem for Mail for Exchange?
By the way Nokia Messaging is just a proxy for your email account, you don't need to set up another email account to use it.
Mike C
and thats is exacty the problem.. that it is a proxy. I need to send mails from my domain through my domains smtp server (thats 1 of ours spam control things which by the way everybody on the internet should use)
So if a use nokia messaging i dont care that it polls and pushes emails for me. But if i send an email i HAVE to send it through our smtp server and not nokia's
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2009-11-13
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
Are you saying that Nokia Messaging sends the emails itself? I had understood that it sends it via your mail server hence why its asks you for your smtp server. I suspect there are other issues with corporate mail servers related to security as well.
and thats is exacty the problem.. that it is a proxy. I need to send mails from my domain through my domains smtp server (thats 1 of ours spam control things which by the way everybody on the internet should use)
So if a use nokia messaging i dont care that it polls and pushes emails for me. But if i send an email i HAVE to send it through our smtp server and not nokia's
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2009-11-13
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Originally Posted by mikec
The problem is that I have *my* mail infrastructure in place and I really do not want my mails to go through some companies servers, just so I can get "push mail".
Are you saying that Nokia Messaging sends the emails itself? I had understood that it sends it via your mail server hence why its asks you for your smtp server. I suspect there are other issues with corporate mail servers related to security as well.
http://thenokiablog.com/2009/11/13/nokia-n900-review/
there i see quotes like:
"I’m disappointed that Google Sync for email doesn’t work on the Nokia N900"
"There is a known performance issue for IMAP users like Gmail"
"users will be able to use their Nokia Messaging account for push email"
I currently use 2 things on my E90: 1> is gmail with the java gmail app, that wont ofcourse work anymore on N900
and i use ProfiMail that has imap-idle support for true push email of my other imap accounts.
So now i read that google exchange setup doesnt work and imap has issues and to use push you have to use nokia messaging .. But noka messaging will not work for my setup (i have to send email through our own smtp server)
I really hope that this will improve and that N900 calendar can be synced with googles calendar and that i can have push gmail and imap..