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Hi,

Today is a sad day for me. I yesterday watched the ever amazing presentation of iPhone Jobs made.

So I connected to Maemo to see how my N770 was going against iPhone.

Seconds later I discovered Nokia had killed my N770.

I still don't know why did they do that. I don't see very dificult to do a:

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-N800-hacks

and another

./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-N800-hacks

Anyway, that is why I suppose people buy Apple products. They are expensive, but they know they are not going to be forgotten once the next version of the iPod is going to be available!!!

I'm not going to make nokia change its mind, so I'm not trying, I'd like to see, at least, an exchange program for all who bought n770's. Let's say 199€+N770 for a new N800. That would be fair if they don't ship OS2007 for N770.

We let Nokia validate their OS experiment. I think it would be correct for them to help us make the transition. We users helped too.

That said, I wanted to talk about the software missing in OS2007.

There are still IMPORTANT killing aplications that don't ship with the system and shoud:

Here you have my list

Bluetooth Speakers Slave Interface

That is the most important one. iPhone rocks, but has a big problem with it. You must carry a big thing allways in order to carry your mobile phone. It is the same problem that Nokia communicator has always got. Too big for your pants pocket.

But with Bluetooth it is irrelevant. And very easily workable. The stack is there.

I should be able to call anybody from an N770-N800. It is so easy to be made that its fustrating it is not already in the system.
Nxx0 should be paired to any nokia phone as an standard bluetooth speaker/car integrated bluetooth.

So whenever you have your phone at range, N770 is an iPhone. But better, because you don't have to carry always the big thing.

PIM

I understand OS2005 shouldn't have an integrated PIM for marketting reasons. You must demonstrate Internet tablets were something different.

But after 2 years it is a huge mistake there is still no kontact-lite/evolution-lite integrated in the system. It is NECESSARY.

Internet is about Browsers as much as it is about e-mail, contacts, todos, calendars and notes. OS2006 didn't have the ability to save phone numbers on your contacts database!!

That is a nonsense. Computers don't send snail-mail, but this is not an excuse for not having Adress info or birthday info in their Address books.

OpenSync

That is related to the previous but is as important as that one.

OpenSync should be there out of the box. And should work perfectly with Evolution and kontact.

After installing the system a simple click should make you able to have all your contacts, todos and calendar in your brand new NXX0.

A real distro

You have your system. And you have lots of free software available. It would make sense every new OS200X version had some of this software already installed.

You could simply release an "empty OS2007" and an "extended OS2007" and see how many people goes for the extended one.

Here you have some examples of what should be installed directly from the OS2007 binary package:

Samba, vncclient, vncserver, maemopad+, osso xterm, bluetooth xfer, bluetooth plugin, clock applet, additional maemo internet search engines, rdesktop, wifiinfo, CANOLA, MPLAYER, vim, mc, bluetooth obex server, sqlite3, ssh server and client, wget, gpsd, wireless tools, Maemo Process viewer.

QT and kdelibs

Last, N800, with 256MB+ a "system dedicated" SDCard should have QT and kdelibs ready so it would be easy to port kde and gnome aplications to maemo.


That is my humble opinion.

I write it down to a forum so you can add or take away things fo this list.

Happy new year,

Eduard
 
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Originally Posted by eduardp View Post
So I connected to Maemo to see how my N770 was going against iPhone.

Seconds later I discovered Nokia had killed my N770.

I still don't know why did they do that.
Nor do I. What did you do, install 2007 on the 770?


Originally Posted by eduardp View Post
Anyway, that is why I suppose people buy Apple products. They are expensive, but they know they are not going to be forgotten once the next version of the iPod is going to be available!!!
Given the number of Apple products I had which were abandoned at fairly short notice, I disagree - Apple has a strategy of releasing fairly complete hardware/software packages, but once a new generation hardware is out, they almost never do a feature upgrade for old hardware...

Originally Posted by eduardp View Post

PIM

I understand OS2005 shouldn't have an integrated PIM for marketting reasons. You must demonstrate Internet tablets were something different.

But after 2 years it is a huge mistake there is still no kontact-lite/evolution-lite integrated in the system. It is NECESSARY.

...
OpenSync

That is related to the previous but is as important as that one.

OpenSync should be there out of the box. And should work perfectly with Evolution and kontact.
There is no "Evolution lite" - Evolution is about as bulky as it can get, and stripping it or writing a lightweight workalike would be a project with a timespan of several years. And Kontact won't do at all, as it is a Qt app.

Nor is there a stable version of OpenSync - even the predecessor never went out of a barely useable beta, and OpenSync is four months old alpha code.

That is: While a more complete and bundled PIM would be desirable, there is no existing small PIM suite for GTK/GDK beyond the free addons we can already install. And in their current state, I am not surprised that Nokia won't bundle them yet - that would merely create a mess for all users without previous Linux admin experience, and overload Nokia support with questions they cannot answer...

Originally Posted by eduardp View Post
QT and kdelibs

Last, N800, with 256MB+ a "system dedicated" SDCard should have QT and kdelibs
Well, once they upgrade RAM to 512MB+, maybe - in 256MB, and with swap space constrained by the need to have a low write load on each flash cell, Qt would not only need a equivalent of hildonization (to integrate at all), but also a stripdown similar to the one GTK/GDK received - otherwise, the performance benefits of the new hardware would be pretty much gone...

Sevo

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Originally Posted by sevo View Post
Well, once they upgrade RAM to 512MB+, maybe - in 256MB, and with swap space constrained by the need to have a low write load on each flash cell, Qt would not only need a equivalent of hildonization (to integrate at all), but also a stripdown similar to the one GTK/GDK received - otherwise, the performance benefits of the new hardware would be pretty much gone...
Well, that would be Qtopia, as on the Sharp Zaurus and Archos PMA, no ?...
 
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Originally Posted by fpp View Post
Well, that would be Qtopia, as on the Sharp Zaurus and Archos PMA, no ?...
That would require either a hildonized Qtopia, or a qtopia'd Hildon - merely adding on a second widget toolkit won't do, most users would not be able to cope with a GUI paradigm shift between applications...

Sevo
 
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