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2010-02-08
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The problem is technically with your charger...probably.
Are you using a generic USB charger? or the nokia official one?
if you are using a generic USB charger the problem is probably that it has the datapins as if it is a computer, but it is not negotiating the charging (because it's not a computer)
either a) use a computer to charge, b) use a real nokia charger or c) read: http://danielwould.wordpress.com/201...-dumb-charger/
if you are using a real nokia charger... then sorry. I don't know
Are you using a generic USB charger? or the nokia official one?
if you are using a generic USB charger the problem is probably that it has the datapins as if it is a computer, but it is not negotiating the charging (because it's not a computer)
either a) use a computer to charge, b) use a real nokia charger or c) read: http://danielwould.wordpress.com/201...-dumb-charger/
if you are using a real nokia charger... then sorry. I don't know
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2010-02-08
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Works fine for me, but then I plug it in before the battery goes flat.
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2010-02-08
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@rob1n, LOL i dont have problems before it goes flat either.
@ dwould, i just connected my phone using the official nokia usb cable packed with my n900 and im charge it with the computer. I can even look in the mass memory of my n900 but there is nothing charging. screen is completly black (no backscreen on) and no LED is flashing burning. MAybe it is charging but i cant see any sign of it. When i hit the power button the phone starts and the charging LED pattern is shown.
Last edited by sygys; 2010-02-08 at 13:33.
@ dwould, i just connected my phone using the official nokia usb cable packed with my n900 and im charge it with the computer. I can even look in the mass memory of my n900 but there is nothing charging. screen is completly black (no backscreen on) and no LED is flashing burning. MAybe it is charging but i cant see any sign of it. When i hit the power button the phone starts and the charging LED pattern is shown.
Last edited by sygys; 2010-02-08 at 13:33.
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2010-02-08
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Originally Posted by sygys
@rob1n, LOL i dont have problems before it goes flat either.
@ dwould, i just connected my phone using the official nokia usb cable packed with my n900 and im charge it with the computer. I can even look in the mass memory of my n900 but there is nothing charging. screen is completly black (no backscreen on) and no LED is flashing burning. MAybe it is charging but i cant see any sign of it. When i hit the power button the phone starts and the charging LED pattern is shown
weird, the symptoms you described sound exactly like the cycle it goes through if you plug in a charger which for some reason is failing to negotiate the charging rate.
But obviously the real nokia charger should be fine.
that said... if you are using a data cable to a windows box, I have heard that windows will basically refuse to negotiate usb charging until it's figured out the device drivers. So it's possible that something on the computer is confused and not responding to the charging negotiation.
I would try a real nokia plug-in charger, or perhaps a different computer?
if it's linux you could check out dmesg to see if there is anything during the initial plugging in that would indicate a failure.
Sorry you're having so much grief.
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2010-02-08
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Originally Posted by sygys
If the battery gets very low then th charging indicator doesn't come on until the battery has made it above a certai level. Try leaving the phone plugged in for a couple of minutes and see if it starts to show the indicator.
@rob1n, LOL i dont have problems before it goes flat either.
@ dwould, i just connected my phone using the official nokia usb cable packed with my n900 and im charge it with the computer. I can even look in the mass memory of my n900 but there is nothing charging. screen is completly black (no backscreen on) and no LED is flashing burning. MAybe it is charging but i cant see any sign of it. When i hit the power button the phone starts and the charging LED pattern is shown
The other point to consider is if the computer is supplying enough power. Some computer USB sockets fail to provide the expect 500ma expected. This is an issue for usb disks too.
Last edited by Fargus; 2010-02-08 at 13:34. Reason: Additional
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2010-02-08
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This is strange i just shut down my n900 again and it shuts down the os, it gives me the nokia logo with usb logo top right. then the screen goes complete black and the LED stops flashing. I then get the message from my PC that the n900 is connected via mass storage i can then browse my files on my n900. Dont remember i got this in the past..
@ fargus the phone starts without the charger so i think it has enough power. the power failure could be a problem. but it indicates charging fine when n900 is on. i will try to charge when device is off with the normal power charger and see what happens then.
Thanks for all the replies!
Last edited by sygys; 2010-02-08 at 13:36.
@ fargus the phone starts without the charger so i think it has enough power. the power failure could be a problem. but it indicates charging fine when n900 is on. i will try to charge when device is off with the normal power charger and see what happens then.
Thanks for all the replies!
Last edited by sygys; 2010-02-08 at 13:36.
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2010-02-08
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It's not a good idea to wait until the battery is empty to recharge it.
What I prefer to do is use a desktop battery charger, so when my battery runs low I just put in an already-charged battery. I don't like to spend time with my phone plugged in to a charger, it makes me less mobile. Total cost for charger plus spare batteries -- less than $20. This assumes you don't buy from Nokia, which apparently doesn't sell a desktop charger anyway.
What I prefer to do is use a desktop battery charger, so when my battery runs low I just put in an already-charged battery. I don't like to spend time with my phone plugged in to a charger, it makes me less mobile. Total cost for charger plus spare batteries -- less than $20. This assumes you don't buy from Nokia, which apparently doesn't sell a desktop charger anyway.
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2010-02-08
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it is actually charging. i just put back on my n900 and it is allready at 33% charge so even when nothing is shown the battery charges.
Why is it bad to let the battery die out? It shouldn't be bad because it can always happen.
I also dont buy 3rd party batteries. why not? because last time i had one in my n95 it became twice as big making my battery cover pop of the back of my phone. Luckily i just had to buy a new back cover. who knows what could have happend if it was in my phone a few hours longer.
3rd party batteries are absolutely not safe! there is a reason that they are cheap! you can count on that!
Why is it bad to let the battery die out? It shouldn't be bad because it can always happen.
I also dont buy 3rd party batteries. why not? because last time i had one in my n95 it became twice as big making my battery cover pop of the back of my phone. Luckily i just had to buy a new back cover. who knows what could have happend if it was in my phone a few hours longer.
3rd party batteries are absolutely not safe! there is a reason that they are cheap! you can count on that!
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2010-02-08
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Charging empty battery with computer's usb is a chicken and egg problem.
N900 must be alive to negotiate with your computer for 500mA, but to be alive it must have power, and to have power it must negotiate with the computer...
I've heard it'll draw the maximum allowed (100mA) when "off", it would take a while before it has charged enough to startup (which uses more than the max 500mA even, let alone 100mA)... I suspect if you try start before that, it aborts and switches off as soon as it notices the battery is too empty.
Hopefully it works better with the real wallcharger that's able to both supply 1200mA, which should be sufficient for booting, and has a very simple method for signaling "it's okay to take as much power as you want".
N900 must be alive to negotiate with your computer for 500mA, but to be alive it must have power, and to have power it must negotiate with the computer...
I've heard it'll draw the maximum allowed (100mA) when "off", it would take a while before it has charged enough to startup (which uses more than the max 500mA even, let alone 100mA)... I suspect if you try start before that, it aborts and switches off as soon as it notices the battery is too empty.
Hopefully it works better with the real wallcharger that's able to both supply 1200mA, which should be sufficient for booting, and has a very simple method for signaling "it's okay to take as much power as you want".
Battery is emty and phone shuts down. i plug in the charger, it vibrates i see a orange light flashing 3 times. screen goes black orange light goes out. and nothing anymore... need te re-plugin the charger or start the n900 before the damn thing charges!
Whats wrong with this thing?? Allot of people i spoke have even bigger trouble. they need to externaly charge the battery after it shuts down. because it wont start and wont charge.
Another pain is to start the n900 while charging. first time you start it actually shuts down the charging process and need to start the phone another time.
Why didn't nokia made this atleast work a little??
sorry for this but i really needed to get this out of my system!