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I'm setting up my N810 from scratch again and this time I am considering dropping Pidgin for RTComm.

Before installing it and trying to set it up does anyone here have much experience with both chat tools?

I used Pidgin very casually (the occasional Gtalk/Yahoo/MSN message) so I'm not really a heavy chat-user.

- Does RTComm take up less space than Pidgin,

- Does RTComm support invisible mode (I think that in 2008 it didn't),

- Anything significant that Pidgin has that RTComm doesn't (chat protocol support, important features, etc)?

Open to other chat suggestions as well. Maybe Fring (never tried)?

(Since I'm not a very heavy chatter I could even consider using a webapp).
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I use RTcomm on my tablets for Google talk, MSN, and facebook, not that I'm a heavy chat user myself either.

RTcomm works for me as it is built in to the system, and all the notifications etc work out of the box, and intergrate nicely with the whole ecosystem on the tablet. RTcomm allows you to set your visibility using the presence applet on the panel, which is quite neat

I tried pidgin a long time ago, and I felt like it was just an app which sat on top of the OS, and for me at least, if it was not running, I was not visible.

I would suggest giving RTcomm a spin first.
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Thanks, I did go down the RTComm route but ran into a wall when it comes to getting RTComm to work with Yahoo. Posted a question in another thread but if you got it working I'd love to know how
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The Yahoo reason, and lately MSN - are the reasons I didn't go with RTComm beta this time. You can update the purple library and that will allow connectivity to Yahoo.

To me, the space saved between the two is neglible. They both rely on the purplelib - which is the bulk of the size - but to me, as stated before... it's not as integrated as RTComm at all to the OS.

But it's updated more often than RTComm. And that's why I chose it.
 

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Thanks I'll see if I can track down an updated purplelib and see if that resolves Yahoo in RTComm.

EDIT: Updating in App Manager didn't trigger any update nor did an update command in terminal. How DO I go about, as you mention, to update the purplelib?

I see a lot of purple lib entries in extras/devel ( http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...iablo/install/ ) are any of these ok to grab?
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I think the core of RTComm for Maemo4 is basically dead. Thank goodness they used the purple lib though.

Now... (I think) you can force the update via:

apt-get install libpurple0 - The latest version is libpurple0 (2.6.6-0nix1)

I'm not sure if apt-get install or apt-get upgrade will work here, but that should get you closer.

Or it might be (explicitly) apt-get install libpurple0=2.6.6-0nix1 but I think that method you will miss out on some of the dependent libraries that also need updating.

You can check which version of libpurple you have via:

apt-cache policy libpurple0

And you'll see if there are any updates available - have your app catalogs all enabled.

<edit> I knew my bookmarks would come in handy one day - this thread qole was going in pretty deep about the commands and the problems last year. I forgot that MSN needs telepathy butterfly, among other issues.
 
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Ah thanks much!

Turns out I am already on 2.6.6-0nix1.
I read through the last 10 pages on the thread you linked but nothing really stood out as far as a fix for Yahoo on RTCOmm.


I also tried the DNS spoof but no go.

I'm wondering if I need/should downgrade my purple to the 2.5.0.qole hack.
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