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Hi everybody,

I've been totally enthusiastic about my N900 for a few months now. But starting yesterday it suddenly refuses to vibrate which is quite a nuisance on touchscreen inputs.

Vibrating tends to work for a while and, then, it fades away. However, sometimes when I lightly shake my N900, the problem is remedied for another couple of minutes.

I assume there is a problem with that motor which is responsible for vibrating. Is there maybe an easy way to clean it?

I'd hate to send my N900 back.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
 
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send it to service or open the device and see if you are able to troubleshoot the issue.

it might be bad connection in vibration motor.
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Not sure if it is a vibration "motor" per se rather it may well be a solenoid. A solenoid works on the principle of electromagnetism moving a demagnetised ferrous armature up and down within a stem tube, surrounded by copper coil acting as the "magnet". If the wires connecting to the solenoid are suffering from a "dry solder joint" or "fractures" or quite simply "poor connection" then it is easily remedied through another carefully applied drop or two of solder.

When soldering be careful not to short across any of the other lands (conneciton points on the board) for fear of permenently and completely bricking your phone.

From the short description of shaking it I would guess at a dry solder joint in that area. Although not sure where it would be......

Hope this helps....
 
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"N900 refuses to vibrate - I'm getting desparate"
One could take that title -entirely- wrongly. XD

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I'm guessing the reason the OP said motor is that a lot of phone vibrators(all of the ones I've seen) use a micro brushed DC motor and a "half-sphere" weight on the shaft. As it spins, centrifugal force makes the whole thing shake, as its not even.

I could see using a solenoid for this purpose also, but it would require an electronic control circuit etc. to make it work. Not just a single FET for turning it off and on.
 

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Is your phone overclocked?
 
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Is the OP a woman by any chance? lol.
 
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Originally Posted by Switch_ View Post
Not sure if it is a vibration "motor" per se rather it may well be a solenoid. A solenoid works on the principle of electromagnetism moving a demagnetised ferrous armature up and down within a stem tube, surrounded by copper coil acting as the "magnet". If the wires connecting to the solenoid are suffering from a "dry solder joint" or "fractures" or quite simply "poor connection" then it is easily remedied through another carefully applied drop or two of solder.

When soldering be careful not to short across any of the other lands (conneciton points on the board) for fear of permenently and completely bricking your phone.

From the short description of shaking it I would guess at a dry solder joint in that area. Although not sure where it would be......

Hope this helps....
all nokias I've disassembled have small DC motor with eccentric weight. and most of them are only pressed to the contacts by phones casing.

e: something like this:
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Originally Posted by noipv4 View Post
Is your phone overclocked?
No, not at all. I did not do anything experimental with that phone.

However, could you imagine any software related issue that might cause this phenomenon? That was actually my first guess. But the fact that I can (sometimes) improve to situation just by shaking the N900 (which may still be a coincidence) made me think it might be a hardware issue instead.
 
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
all nokias I've disassembled have small DC motor with eccentric weight. and most of them are only pressed to the contacts by phones casing.
Thank you very much for the information. Can you tell where this motor might be located?

May I ask a (probably very) stupid question? Is there any mechanical fault that might have been been caused by dust?

When I took off the lid for the first time in months yesterday, I noticed that some dust had accumulated there. And, no, I usually tend to keep my N900 in a clean environment.
 
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Or it could simply be dust or something in the motor which prevents it from vibrating (had that from day 1 - fixed it by leaving the motor running overnight).
You could try to run the motor at 255 (highest speed) and it might grind () the dust, if it is dust, as root, run: (don't touch the screen/keys after running the command - till the vibra works)
Code:
sleep 1; echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/twl4030:vibrator/brightness
I don't know the specs of the motor and how long it could run for, but if/when the motor works touch any key to stop it (or the screen)
 

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