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Hi! Had to register to post this message. So, are you guys familiar with the antenna of N800? One picture of the antenna can be found from the FCC documents, here's the link: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf

But here's my question and I hope that there is someone who understand this kind of antenna things: Do we have here only one antenna (dipole) or are those two antenna patterns for two different wireless systems (bluetooth and wlan)?
In my opinion it sounds quite stupid to use two separate antennas for the systems which operate in the same frequency... Or do we even have here antennas for the same frequencys (2.4 GHz)? And if not, it makes this whole thing quite interesting
 
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I dont know what it means, although I have a hypothesis.

You also can check the power emitted by the 4 devices (3 above 1 GHz, 1 under) in the same page of the FCC. 2 devices have output power undr 100 mW, one at 0,234 W? The other one we don't know.


That s why I asked 2 days ago for the specs of the wifi module.

Can someone help?

S

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Can you give the link to that document and tell which page? Thx
 
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Go to FFC webpage, go to

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/...ericSearch.cfm

enter

Grantee Code: LJP
Product Code: RX-34

Enter

On the page displayed, open the 3 form (view form), first left column . You will get the specs of the emitters (frequency, output power and class).
 
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Well, last two pages seems to be quite ok (for me ) because frequencies and transmission techniques match. 802.11b uses DSSS (one form of spread spectrum techniques) if I remember correctly and it's mentioned there, also the frequncy is 2.4G which is ok. Bluetooth also uses spread spectrum techniques and if I remember correctly, it's FHSS in BT case.

And there is a mention in the first case: "Low Power Transmitters below 1 GHz (except Spread Spectrum), Unintentional Radiators". That could be something related to AC voltage and charger, don't know. But the word "unintentional".
 
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Originally Posted by TheSkyIsFalling View Post
Well, last two pages seems to be quite ok (for me ) because frequencies and transmission techniques match. 802.11b uses DSSS (one form of spread spectrum techniques) if I remember correctly and it's mentioned there, also the frequncy is 2.4G which is ok. Bluetooth also uses spread spectrum techniques and if I remember correctly, it's FHSS in BT case.

And there is a mention in the first case: "Low Power Transmitters below 1 GHz (except Spread Spectrum), Unintentional Radiators". That could be something related to AC voltage and charger, don't know. But the word "unintentional".
Yes however there are 2 lines in form with 100 mW output power units. Is it Wifi and BT?
And what is the unit with 0,234 W? in the same frequency range ( a bit more narrow) class "DTS - Digital Transmission System"

2,4 GHz is one frequency used by Wifi, Bluetooth and also Wimax (802.16 ) - source Wikipedia-

S
 
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Hmm, actually quite interesting. One article says that the maximum transmission power for GSM900 is about 0,25W. And one of the FCC pages says 0,234W and the frequency is 2.4G. IMO the transmission power should be much lower when we are using that free 2.4G band. Hmm, do we have Wimax here? Actually the mobile version of Wimax is working from 2 GHz to several GHzs. And the transmission power (0.234W) could be something like that and there is no need for the line of sight component.
 
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Originally Posted by TheSkyIsFalling View Post
Hmm, actually quite interesting. One article says that the maximum transmission power for GSM900 is about 0,25W. And one of the FCC pages says 0,234W and the frequency is 2.4G. IMO the transmission power should be much lower when we are using that free 2.4G band. Hmm, do we have Wimax here? Actually the mobile version of Wimax is working from 2 GHz to several GHzs. And the transmission power (0.234W) could be something like that and there is no need for the line of sight component.
this is an hypothesis i thought since a week ago. but i m not educated in this field at all..
there is also a thread mentioning a hidden easter egg in this forum , which is not the fm radio. also so many people noticing the extraordinary sensitivity of the IT. i don't know.
 
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From what I remember from reading the FCC papers those months ago, there is one single antenna used for both BT and wi-fi, in a multiplexing fashion.
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i believe so, which is why i think the wifi gets dropped everytime a bluetooth device connects.
 

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