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2010-12-01
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I think there is an easy fedora 0.o well "I think" easy debian has complete CLI functions the chopped down ones are the apps included.
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2010-12-01
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point is that if you put up a virtual prebuilt server on say amazon (I friend who is an admin showed me this) it will be under 300m. I wish this existed as an easy debian server for the n900 as opposed to a default file 5 or 6 times bigger due to the desktop and sound which I do not need...
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2010-12-01
, 19:57
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I forsee a thunderous stampede pushing for this
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2010-12-01
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@ Tatooine
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Just wondering, what server-y type of things were you planning on doing?
...because (as I'm sure you already know) you can do alot of them on the N900 'natively'.
Or is it that you simply want to learn Ubunutu Server?
...because (as I'm sure you already know) you can do alot of them on the N900 'natively'.
Or is it that you simply want to learn Ubunutu Server?
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2010-12-01
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well originally I wanted easy fedora due to wanting to learn red hat. as it turned out the arm port was crap. well I basically want to learn networking better so that would mean a full lamp stack, a compiled from source apache, samba (couldn't get it to start in maemo) and the list goes on.
Like I said I really bought the n900 to dig into linux, so yes to learn. I will never use (have tried them) things like iceweasel, openoffice or any number of other things that work but are not really optimized for the form factor of the n900, but I do want all the serverish things. I also am aware that certain things work in maemo, but..
a) many things seem to be missing, for example I see http-light but not apache (perhaps it is available but I did not see it).
b) anytime you are learning, installing, uninstalling and tinkering with settings you can destroy things. I don't care if I destroy easy debian, but I really don't want to hose maemo...
c) I made the request because since easy debian already exists, I thought (though of course I could be wrong) that it would not be that hard to just chop out all the non server stuff and create a new image from that.
Last edited by extendedping; 2010-12-01 at 20:28.
Like I said I really bought the n900 to dig into linux, so yes to learn. I will never use (have tried them) things like iceweasel, openoffice or any number of other things that work but are not really optimized for the form factor of the n900, but I do want all the serverish things. I also am aware that certain things work in maemo, but..
a) many things seem to be missing, for example I see http-light but not apache (perhaps it is available but I did not see it).
b) anytime you are learning, installing, uninstalling and tinkering with settings you can destroy things. I don't care if I destroy easy debian, but I really don't want to hose maemo...
c) I made the request because since easy debian already exists, I thought (though of course I could be wrong) that it would not be that hard to just chop out all the non server stuff and create a new image from that.
Last edited by extendedping; 2010-12-01 at 20:28.
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2010-12-01
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@ England
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You bought an n900 to learn Linux o.O you picked a hard way to do it.
We don't have build-essential without it taking up a lot of memory, servers are typically x86_64 and we're using ARM. We're stuck with perl 5.8, a valuable tool in Linux administration.
It'd be a million times better to use a virtualised OS.
We don't have build-essential without it taking up a lot of memory, servers are typically x86_64 and we're using ARM. We're stuck with perl 5.8, a valuable tool in Linux administration.
It'd be a million times better to use a virtualised OS.
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2010-12-01
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I know but...I have actually learned quite a bit having bash and coreutils in my pocket. now services are next...I know it is not perfect.
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2010-12-01
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I admire your patience wanting to learn in this way!
For me, I've got an 'old' PC set up as a server running Ubuntu - it's my web development machine (LAMP), NFS server, Samba for the wife, torrent downloads, monitoring server, answerphone, etc, etc, etc, etc. I can get to it from the outside (ie from my N900 on the road) via my router over SSH.
I've been doing this for many years, and I've learnt more at home than I do at my job which is a UNIX SysAdmin!
For me, I've got an 'old' PC set up as a server running Ubuntu - it's my web development machine (LAMP), NFS server, Samba for the wife, torrent downloads, monitoring server, answerphone, etc, etc, etc, etc. I can get to it from the outside (ie from my N900 on the road) via my router over SSH.
I've been doing this for many years, and I've learnt more at home than I do at my job which is a UNIX SysAdmin!
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2010-12-01
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the problem is when I am home my 3 year old is crawling on me so almost all my learning is on the train or stolen moments. That is why the n900 is so special. and I hear you with ssh but battery is already not great....
common folks lets chant together...
easy debian server
easy debian server....
common folks lets chant together...
easy debian server
easy debian server....
I have no idea if I am alone in wanting this or if it would be an easy task...I mean basically it would just be chopping away lots of packages from the existing easy debian and then repackaging a much smaller image file correct?
Thank you for listening .... btw I am aware that I could install easy debian and then manually get rid of programs but that sounds like a not great plan. I am upgrading via apt-get the latest version (because I always want the latest stuff it is a character flaw) and I am 2 1/2 hours into the upgrade. I suspect that if this was "easy debian server edition" I would have been done 2 hours ago (just guessing).
So anyone else on board with me here? I know you can have multiple easy debian images and put your boot preference in a hidden file in your home directory, so it is not even like an either or scenario right? you could have one instance to learn services/program etc and one to load up when you really needed sound or openoffice....