Lots of buzz (and threads!) on the Ipods, but I haven't seen anything here yet on the new Ipaqs.

Ipaq 210 features:
4" 640x480 transflective screen
Rocking 600+mhz processor
128 meg ram, 256meg rom
802.11b/g
SDHC and CF slots
Windows Mobile 6 (and while I know the Internet experience will be... limited, at least it offers out-of-the-box calendar, contacts, and Office-lite apps!)

Starting at $450 on HP's website.

Pictures here with specs and prices for the full range of new iPaqs. I like the look of the 210... it's nice in shiny black

The trouble is there's nothing really special about them... Windows Mobile 6 (eugh) and at best 320x240 screens (apart from the navigator thingie).

Prices are quite cheap though: the 110 is expected to retail at $110 and it has 64MB RAM, 256MB Flash ROM, 624Mhz CPU, BT 2.0 and 11b/g WiFi, SD memory slot, 320x240 3.5" screen... kind of makes the N800 look waaay overpriced at $400 - I know the N800 has additional hardware, but not to the tune of $290... Quite remarkable when you consider HP are having to pay for the OS as well.

EDIT: Just checked the HP site... the 110 is expected to retail at $299 in which case the Register got it slightly wrong! Still... shows there's some margin in the N800 at $400.

Now THOSE devices are more competition for the N800.

The problem with those is that damnable WinMo OS and the high cost of entry just to develop something for it.
And just about every single piece of software out there for it you have to pay for.
Unless Microsoft has released a free WinMo SDK that I don't know about?
But the 110 is priced pretty much PERFECTLY and the 210 looks slick.
The only difference between them - other than price - seems to be that the 210 has BT and MMC capabilities whereas the 110 only has the wi-fi and SD capabilities.
But their "business" devices at the far end of the pricier spectrum look like crap.
I'd rather have an E90 if I had to get a QWERTY phone and the new U.S. N95 with the bigger battery (don't care about AT&T's overpriced and non-existent 3G bands) for a non-QWERTY phone.

Texrat, what's really the nokia's IT target market and its current status?

I can't help to think that Nokia is trying many new things (too them) w/ many aspects of the IT and it's still in the incubation stage w/ limited release. Surely no major pda/phone company wants to create a device specifically targetting linux developers and linux savvy users due to their sheer number and immense buying power?

What's next after a successful incubation?

I have to ask the same question. If Nokia is going to make a go at the mass market with the N800, they need to start firing on all cylinders NOW. That includes outmanuvering the competition technically (camera support, more onboard apps to increase functionality) and in marketing (please tell SOMEONE about this device already!).

+1 with Traecer

If someone sees my N800 or 770 they always ask, "What is that?" They have no concept of what an Internet Tablet is, and more importantly that Nokia makes one. With the exception of some lame product placements and a few print ads, I have seen very little from Nokia. I too think it is ridiculous that I have a camera on this device with very little to do with it. The new version of camera doesn't even support video capture and none of the chat programs are integrating with the camera. Come on Nokia!

According to this specification page on the HP site, the 110 has 11 b/g WiFi and BT 2.0 + EDR just like the 210.

However the 210 is very different to the 110 - sloppy work on the part of the Register for suggesting they're very similar! The 210 (specs) has a 480x640 resolution 4" touch screen, 128MB RAM (64MB in the 110), capacious 2200mAh battery (1200mAh in 110, 1500mAh in N800) and supports full size SD card (inc. MMC support - the 110 supports only microSD) and also CF II support.

Basically, the 210 sounds like a direct replacement for the iPaq HX4700.

Really? Those are mostly targetted at businesses though, and we've been told this is an N800, not an E800.

Presumably HP/Microsoft have stripped out the push email, VPN access, decent (enough) email client, PIM and calendaring functions to meet the needs of an "Internet" and "multimedia" market segment, rather than the un-hip business users who want to get things done? ;-/

Nokia's problem is that their left hand isn't talking to their right hand.
Take all the recent announcements in regards to their new Ovi portal with a music store and the new n-gage gaming platform.
NONE of those will work with the N800.
Hell, they even dare to think they can somehow compete with iTunes with their Windows-only music store. Their own people are saying you'll need Microsoft's Internet Explorer in order to even buy anything from their online stores outside of the new phones themselves. iTunes might not be all that but one thing the iPod can do is sync with iTunes on both Windows and Mac operating systems with several open-source solutions provided for Linux users.
Thanks Nokia, but no thanks. You would have thought they would have seen the furor over the recent decision by the BBC to deploy a Windows-only iPlayer in the UK for viewers to watch BBC programming and taken a hint.
They didn't so they don't get my money for their new "services".
OS X marketshare IS increasing pretty rapidly now under Stevie J's leadership.