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2011-07-12 , 17:37
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#51
Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Even when they understood the success of the iPhone and Android, they still made that half arsed E7 (EDoF instead of autofocus, Too low res screen, too small battery). They just don't get these simple things. EDoF is a perfect technology for low and mid range, but the lack of macro makes it unsuited for high end and the E-series in particular. Why is this so difficult to understand for Nokia
About the E7.

Don't forget the whopping 16GB onboard storage with NO SD Card slot. Wtf is that? I said this in another thread but that is the same amount of storage I had in my N95 like 4 years ago. Talk about going backwards!
 
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Originally Posted by meego99 View Post
Interesting stats for the level of N9 interest based on google trends.....even less than N8, and much less than iphone 4...


http://www.google.com/trends?q=nokia...ate=all&sort=0
What spike? I have a hard time seeing the little red 'spike' you described. I DO clearly see the N8's trend up, but the N9 is damn hard to make out--looks more like a flatline. If that's a spike somewhere in there, it's a pretty sharp rise and fall.. making it very, very needle thin. Looking for it amongst the rest of those is like finding a needle, alright.
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#53
Just read this article:

Robber who broke into hair salon beaten up by black-belt owner and kept as sex slave for three days... fed only Viagra | Mail Online

I'm a convert.
I'm an avid DailyMail reader now.
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Just read this article:

Robber who broke into hair salon beaten up by black-belt owner and kept as sex slave for three days... fed only Viagra | Mail Online

I'm a convert.
I'm an avid DailyMail reader now.
Dammit! And all we got was that lame article?! Why can't we have read that somehow Eflop was involved?? Also.. what became of Mantis Boy? Anybody?
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Why can't we have read that somehow Eflop was involved??
You pervert!
How could you add a letter to someone's name to imply that he's a failure?? He's someone's son, y'know!
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You pervert!
How could you add a letter to someone's name to imply that he's a failure?? He's someone's son, y'know!
Someone's failure, you mean? Naw... he's making money. That's considered "success" enough by most, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
I disagree, turning Maemo into a phone OS was what killed it. It simply wasn't designed for that.
I've pondered this statement for some time now, and am still not too sure I agree (I do at times, and then I change my mind :-)).

For me, the lack of phone functionality was something I desperately needed with the NIT's, so when the N900 was announced I was ecstatic. Lugging around two devices just wasn't cutting it anymore (if ever). It was also a logical conclusion, I mean, if I can VOIP it, why can't I make a normal cell call, it does say NOKIA on the screen...

Now, after a few years with the N900, it is clear cell functionality was not implemented well into Maemo (if it was ever in doubt). I don't believe, however, that Nokia turned Maemo into a phone OS. The cell functions were prioritized on top of Maemo, yes, but apart from that and the homescreen/desktop view, there really wasn't much of a difference in the user experience between OS2008 and Maemo 5.

It was bad implementation. Much like the dreaded Ovi Store or HAM slowness, it simply wasn't ready for the masses.
I wonder how the N9 does in this regard, since it really uses Harmattan as it's core Os. Does it finally work as expected?
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
It can do nothing but go up... right?

</Steve Ballmer>
that would be a reversal in trend
doesn't usually happen out of the blue, but i guess most of the (fiery) argument here boils down to whether the microkia alliance is such a reversal of trend.
like someone else posted somewhere on TMO about microkia, why would putting two "losers" (@ least on the smart phone market) together make a winner?
 
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Originally Posted by Hurrian View Post
As said by people somewhere else on TMO, Nokia should've went Maemo on their phones way back in 2005. If the flagship phones had the specs the 770 had way back, it would've flown off the shelves.
Probably even a Communicator replacement with a keyboard would've changed everything.

By 2007, Symbian was seeing the last of its days as the most advanced mobile OS. After the iPhone 2G, I wonder why Nokia didn't panic and make the damn Internet Tablet Phone instead of waiting until 2009 and putting up against the iPhone 3GS.
iphone didnt get decent untl 3gs-

and still missing features like bluetooth sending. and multitask.

2g iphone was a dumphone.
 
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iphone didnt get decent untl 3gs-

and still missing features like bluetooth sending. and multitask.

2g iphone was a dumphone.
And yet the original iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS all outsold the N900.

Because it's a dumbphone or your choice of phone has "true" multi-tasking - the 3GS is still supported, will get iOS 5, is readily available and people still buy it.

I think the concept of marketing a product to the masses is lost on folks when they concentrate on such small things that in the end don't really affect sales for the consumer that will actually buy the thing.

Simply put, concentrate on those things you like. Sooner than later, those things will no longer be around. Ask the Zaurus group. Ask the BeOS lovers. Ask the OS/2 lovers. All of those things had killer features that somehow didn't help it sell.

Same for Maemo. Not a mainstream seller. Not going to continue getting support. Hell, this website's future is somewhat of a danger (unknown future that is) because of the lack of support and ultimately sales have done for this platform.

"It's the best!" - I know you're probably thinking that. But it quite didn't sell the best. Or else we'd not be having any of these discussions.

Marketing. Hitting what folks truly want. Selling it in numbers that support those features. Maemo didn't do any of that for Nokia. Thus the drop of support - if it sold in the millions, Nokia would have dedicated more to it.

Or would you rather I say that the N900 got outsold by a dumbphone. By a lot. Even the Nokia 5800 outsold the N900.
 

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