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2011-08-12 , 19:10
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Interesting, there are armv8 packages in OBS as well.
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2011-08-12 , 19:41
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Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
Interesting, there are armv8 packages in OBS as well.
that's the armv7hl (hard floating point) scheduler. a bit misleading name for it but iirc it was easier to setup by naming it armv8 because of the existing amv7l scheduler.
 

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2011-08-12 , 19:59
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Originally Posted by timoph View Post
that's the armv7hl (hard floating point) scheduler. a bit misleading name for it but iirc it was easier to setup by naming it armv8 because of the existing amv7l scheduler.
So basically, you can have non-compliant device support as well?
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2011-08-12 , 20:01
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Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
So basically, you can have non-compliant device support as well?
Yes, Stskeeps stated it took a week to rebuild MeeGo for armv6
 
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2011-08-12 , 21:55
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Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
So basically, you can have non-compliant device support as well?
It's compliant, the ARM arch switched to armv7hl in MeeGo 1.2.
 
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2011-08-12 , 22:07
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Originally Posted by timoph View Post
I don't see a point in deciding one direction for the whole community (which by the definition in the intro page is a developer community [1]). Open source and coding in one's free time is almost always about scratching your own itch so I'd say just contribute/support the effort that suites your needs.

[1] http://maemo.org/intro/
Well said, I couldn't agree more! :-)
 
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2011-08-12 , 22:17
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Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
Cool, what about N800/N810?
They have a CSSU, such as it is, and several independent projects (Diablo Turbo, Advanced System UI, Telescope etc) that improve things significantly. It'd be nice if we could pull everything together and make it easier for users to install though.

MeeGo on OMAP2 seems like a lost cause to me, but I wouldn't be upset if someone proved me wrong.
 

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2011-08-13 , 04:20
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Originally Posted by tekki View Post
I have seen quite a lot of discussion about direction of maemo.org and I thought I would pitch in.

My proposal is simple:

* Make a task force to submit and maintain OBS support for Diablo and Fremantle. That would then be contributed to apps.formeego.org, providing a direction for Extras and autobuilder. If Harmattan support already exists, D and F support cant be difficult
* Make a task force for maintaining a modern kernel for N8x0 devices. 770 is a lost cause due to binary wifi driver
** This enables all sorts of opportunities for these devices. If asked, I am convinced builds for let's say MeeGo of closed source binaries can happen.
* Stop caring about a codebase (Maemo) that is ancient, unmaintained and too heavy to upkeep legally, hosting wise, etc and ridden with nonredistributable closed source. This includes Hildon stack which is really difficult to recreate (see failure of Mer) and even those who got 50k EUR from Nokia to do something about Hildon does not provide a path for applications to rebuild on, making it useless for maemo.org.
* Propose people to base efforts for N900 on the MeeGo hardware adaptation. UI can be the CommunityEdition one or one made by maemo.org community. The hw adaptation team is maintaining the device near parts and not going away. If we dont call our product MeeGo we can do whatever we want with it. We can even be seperate from the MeeGo project if we so desire. But the code base is fine and well functioning for our devices, and open source.

The maemo.org spirit is to do exciting things with our devices. Let us innovate, not get stuck in the past.

Your thoughts on my tangible proposal?

Very well put tekki, agree that we should concentrate our efforts.

Agree also with timoph that community "members" should be allowed to experiment and build whatever they want....

But we are speaking about overall direction of "community" itself here. Our council members, and we in general we should set a direction to focus our activities. This is important as
1. the N900 is nearing EOL
2. the community is decreasing in strength (with titans like qole etc. also spending time over N950/ meego, N900 related efforts have only part of their great brains)
3. Focusing on select critical areas per year helps focus our limited resources into doing something tangible (E.g. CSSU which has been remarkable)

As above I recommend three focus areas
1. CSSU, In parallel gather whatever code we can from Nokia.
2. Kernel/ Upstream improvements
3. Porting N9 compatible Qt applications to maemo. If Alien Dalvik is likely in N9, we should jump to snatch it.

The rest is plain applications building/ testing.

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2011-08-13 , 04:37
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Originally Posted by IcyMoustache View Post
[...]

As above I recommend three focus areas[...]
want to make a poll?
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2011-08-13 , 08:31
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want to make a pool?
Yes, the pole makes sense.
Actually more than one:
  • device prevalence among user/developers, used to determine how many users have each device, and how many developers are willing to work on particular device.
  • possible future developments, depending on above situation.

I own N810, and are naturally interested as both user and developer (provided that there are enough developers willing to work on it as well).

While meego is certainly possible path for that device, there are other possibilities, such as enlightenment (openmoko). If we want to have a choice we have to make sure we have a hardware platform that is open enough.
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