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2011-08-21 , 09:14
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#4461
Fujitsu to beat Nokia to the punch with Mango?
Even though the latter purportedly has "extra special" backing from MS.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/20/f...5th-already-a/
 

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2011-08-21 , 09:37
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Originally Posted by casper27 View Post
@ericsson
I don't really see the N9 or WP becoming the next "must have" any time soon but by naming convention alone alot of people are going to "upgrade" anyways from the E7 and N8. As you stated the shing new one piece case and fast browser with the usual supsects in app support will be enough for most general users to jump on board. It is only about a month after that those people will realise that they have actually upgraded to a discontinued OS. Whilst the phone may be great I can see it causing a lot of issues, I think even on here we will see a lot more general users coming on asking about updates and such as we are sybolically linked to the N9 and Meego.
I my self will still be buying one as soon as it is released as usual but I have not misconceptions about what to expect and will probably be quite happy with my new toy untill something even sparklier comes out.
My point was (although it ended up being hard to see ), that you are already into Elops concept of ecosystem that you are making jokes about all the time. That's why I asked "had a chance for what exactly ?". But I got carried away with other things

What is a phone? Is it a ticket into an ecosystem, or is it a device? Probably a bit of both. What is MeeGo? Is MeeGo an ecosystem? definitely not, its a low level OS adaption. An ecosystem must be built from scratch on top of MeeGo. What is WP? It is an OS and an ecosystem, in fact it is an ecosystem that is part of several other ecosystems.

The N9 is part of Ovi ecosystem, Nokia ecosystem. Ovi is definitely not dying, it is growing rapidly, in fact it is the fastest growing ecosystem right now, but it has very little to do with MeeGo. It has lots to do with Qt, Symbian and S40, but Symbian is proven to be too inefficient as a platform (too slow and hard to develop and to develop for), so Ovi will soon be only Qt and S40. S40 and webapps is what is growing most.

How many people actually care about the ecosystem? very few. How many care about fashion? most do. Fashion creates ecosystems, ecosystems does not create fashion. SGSII is fashionable and also top of the fanboy list, not necessarily on top of the geek list. iPhone is still fashionable. But the N9 will be the hottest, and Nokia WP will have the same look.
 
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2011-08-21 , 09:43
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#4463
Originally Posted by rentze View Post
And whoever said that? Is that how you stop the rumors?
said what?
 
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2011-08-21 , 09:59
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#4464
Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
said what?
that the n9 is the best phone in the world. Ever!
 

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2011-08-21 , 10:09
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Originally Posted by afaq View Post
Not the one I visited in Bangkok but I accept that this might be happening. Also curious as to the reason.
Which one did you visit in BKK that was open ?, can you give out the exact location please ?.

As for the reason, very simply, when the N9 does hit the stores there has to be a store open to go get it .

Watch out for the price from asia because for sure it will be the cheapest in the world especially in Thailand, EVEN with the rediculos exchange rate there at the moment.
 
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2011-08-21 , 10:11
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Originally Posted by rentze View Post
I know about that famous tweet... I just don't find it too important, let alone contracting, especially when their history of statements is taken into account. But that is how the rumors start. After a short tweet, or a sentence taken from the context, which usually mean nothing, comes a series of bombastic titles, analyses, forum threads etc... Furthermore, it often takes several iterations to come up with a quality rumor: every co-author gives his little contribution. So we wind up with our own world of expectations, based on very few facts and lots of imagination. And then, when our expectations aren't met, we rant...
it was Nokia who said it will beb supported for long. Ofcourse they may "lie" or change this. My point is, no one at TMO can actually now its NOT will be supported/limited support. It just make me pissed when people gets dissinformation based on rumors or own conclusion.

thats what I call FUD/dissinformation. if you have your own option no problem, but dont make it look like its was nokia say it. not even Elop has stated it will had limited support. He had said there will not be more Meego thats different story.

here is my personal opinion why I beleevi it will have longtime support from Nokia:

If symbian will be supported for for years with Qt its unlikely why not N9 will be supported? As I have said before N900 was a different story. Totally different framework. Gtk+ was doomed already 2008 when Nokia bought trolltech.

Qt/Symbian/Harmattan is still alive. And I am almost sure updates with Qt4.8 comes maybe already end of 2011 and Qt5.0 around Q2 2012?

that is ofcourse no official statement but its more likely by reading devblogs than much of the ******** statements in this forum in many times just rumors based on engadget och similar crap sites.
 
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2011-08-21 , 10:18
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#4467
Draw Slasher for N9(50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8dgXPPqGa0


 

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2011-08-21 , 10:23
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Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
The Samsung Nexus Prime sounds like it's going to be even better than the SGSII series
And out in freaking October....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/18/s...ch-in-october/

If pricing is just as aggressive...
Then for most folk it's going to be unreasonable to justify the N9 over one of Samsung's offerings

Then there's the juggernaut that is the iPhone 5...
Plus there's rumors Nokia will announce all it's WP device/s before they finally freaking release the N9 anywhere!
[in 2wks at IFA? conference]

I find it hard to believe that Harmattan/N9 couldn't have been made buy-able at least 2mth ago.
Cut some of the feature creep & add it in later, has worked beautifully for iOS/Android.

SIGH......
just another overhyped crap Andriod phone and yes it may sellout N9. But could I care less!?

Personally I dont buy handsets after how many will buy it. Or if my friends has it. Or even if 99% of Todays TMO memebrs will not buy n9.
 

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2011-08-21 , 10:26
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
just another overhyped crap Andriod phone and yes it may sellout N9. But could I care less!?

Personally I dont buy handsets after how many will buy it. Or if my friends has it. Or even if 99% of Todays TMO memebrs will not buy n9.
Mike you will die with the N9 in your hands hahahaha i have never seen anyone so in love with a device than you .
 
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2011-08-21 , 10:36
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
Mike you will die with the N9 in your hands hahahaha i have never seen anyone so in love with a device than you .
But you will after the release.
 
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