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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
bla bla bla. You have to at least make up your mind before making acusations. Fact of the matter still is that webos is vanilla Linux that needs top hardware to run. 8ada is something completely different, a new design from the bottom. ZTE and Huawei gives a nut what core it runs.
Yeah sure, that's why WebOS launched on a 500 MHz A8, while Bada launched on a 1 GHz A8. Wake up boy.
 

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I was working for DEC during its operating system wars, and later when PCs arrived and DEC didn't "get it" that the market had changed around them.

While I've long had a hankering to work for Nokia - not right now. Too much a sense of "same as it ever was" for me to feel comfortable.
 
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Better job than previous leadership. And he hasn't rushed into a tablet war yet.
 
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Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Yeah sure, that's why WebOS launched on a 500 MHz A8, while Bada launched on a 1 GHz A8. Wake up boy.
Bada launched on 1 GHz A8 (and AMOLED) to boost sales. They succeeded, but have been a bit late to launch Bada 2.0 IMO. The other Bada phones except the Wave II run on 455 MHz ARM 11 and similar spec. I wonder how Linux runs on that HW?
 
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Linux runs perfectly well on a 90 Mhz Pentium with 8 megabytes of RAM. (Including X11 and GUI.)

I think running Linux on a system that is more than five times more performant is trivial.

Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Bada launched on 1 GHz A8 (and AMOLED) to boost sales. They succeeded, but have been a bit late to launch Bada 2.0 IMO. The other Bada phones except the Wave II run on 455 MHz ARM 11 and similar spec. I wonder how Linux runs on that HW?
 

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Originally Posted by tkatchev View Post
Linux runs perfectly well on a 90 Mhz Pentium with 8 megabytes of RAM. (Including X11 and GUI.)

I think running Linux on a system that is more than five times more performant is trivial.
Sure, back in those days the Linux kernel was a fraction of the size it is today. Linux has become bloatware, and that's a fact. Nucleus can be scaled down to 13 kb, and still do its job.

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/nucleus/kernel
 
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Sure, back in those days the Linux kernel was a fraction of the size it is today. Linux has become bloatware, and that's a fact. Nucleus can be scaled down to 13 kb, and still do its job.

http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/nucleus/kernel
And it still looks like Android v1.
 
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Fact of the matter still is that webos is vanilla Linux that needs top hardware to run.
*facepalm*

openwrt.org is basically running the same kernel version as MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan. Do you know the hardware specs that stuff runs on? You've been spewing this ignorant bullsh*t since you got here, so you're either an idiot, a troll, or both. I'm going with number three.

You should just be quiet now.
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23 years ago Ronald Reagan said his famous quote: "Facts are stupid things".

I used laugh at that. Turns out he was right.
 

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All this stuff going on with Nokia is something that reminds me of Commodore. I've recently read the book "On the edge - The spectacular rise and fall of Commodore" and some of those incredible executive mistakes are being repeated by Nokia today. In fact, it is even a bit ironic that one of the main competitors of Nokia is the very same one that Commodore nearly obliterated back in those days, namely the evil fruit company.

It seems to me that Nokia executives should listen more carefully to their developers and tech staff. Those people closest to the technology usually knows best what will be popular and strong in future because most of them usually live and breath the stuff they develop. They should listen to their loyal customers who knows more than anyone what they want.
Nokia will fail miserably with WP7, I'm sure of it. I'm not an enemy of Windows CE at all, it it a very good OS in the bottom there, but it is simply the wrong direction and moment in time for Nokia to go for something like that. It isn't just as simple as to bring in two strong company names to succeed, you need some very strong innovations to succeed and WP7 simply doesn't cut it.
I hope N9 will sell good enough to prove my point, but sadly enough it probably won't.

It it is a sad time for the customer market these days that has only one player that try to make its own way instead of the boring mainstream competitors. We basically have one evil choice, (the rotten apples) one plastic and fake linux (Android) and that's it.

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