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	TransTech	2011-12-06 , 14:14
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can anybody make a proper portrait (EN) keyboard so that it can be added to CSSU.

EDIT:>>
Points/hints to portrait convertability:

1) decrease the size of spacebar
2) move the shift key to the lowest row (before the copy,cut,paste function button))
3) decrease the size of [shift key], [function key], [number/symbol key] and [enter key].
4. rearrange the third and fourth rows.

i'll try to show a mock-up if i'll get time.

[see below]

Mock-Up>>>

hope someone will create one now..

thanks

Last edited by TransTech; 2011-12-06 at 15:12.

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kent_autistic	2011-12-06 , 14:18
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Originally Posted by JadeH

how do i make the virtual keyboard turn from the keypad thing back to a full keyboard like kent_autistic?

huh?

ten chars

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	TransTech	2011-12-18 , 17:24
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Originally Posted by m@m0nt

Big thanks! Very useful!

Can you please make something like this for me and all...

p.s. I would like to make it but I really dont know to code anything... and... I use Win7 and have no knowledge about the ubuntu and scratchbox..

p.s.2 : or if anyone else can do this then it will be a great work for the community.

thank you ..

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kent_autistic	2011-12-19 , 02:11
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pleeeeeease

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m@m0nt	2011-12-19 , 05:14
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Originally Posted by TransTech

Can you please make something like this for me and all...

p.s. I would like to make it but I really dont know to code anything... and... I use Win7 and have no knowledge about the ubuntu and scratchbox..

p.s.2 : or if anyone else can do this then it will be a great work for the community.

thank you ..

The bottom row is not so easy to edit, it is "coded" into the keyboard.
I'm trying, but I'm not sure I could do it.
I think the only jonwil can do it, or people who know reverse engineering.

Sorry for my English.

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jonwil	2011-12-20 , 22:21
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ok, for this keyboard layout you are trying to edit (the one where you say the botton row is hardcoded), please point me at the .vkb file for it so I can examine it.

If it does turn out to be hardcoded, I will investigate it when I get back from my holiday around new years

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vi_	2011-12-20 , 22:37
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Can someone upload a copy of the English keyboard decoded to XML? I want to take a look at this space bar thing...

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m@m0nt	2011-12-21 , 07:26
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Originally Posted by jonwil

ok, for this keyboard layout you are trying to edit (the one where you say the botton row is hardcoded), please point me at the .vkb file for it so I can examine it.

If it does turn out to be hardcoded, I will investigate it when I get back from my holiday around new years

This "coded" not in the .vkb files, it's located in hildon_western_fkb.so

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	Remus	2011-12-21 , 10:18
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Originally Posted by vi_

Can someone upload a copy of the English keyboard decoded to XML? I want to take a look at this space bar thing...

Decoded both en_US and en_GB for you since you didn't clearly specify which one you wanted.

Best of luck.

Attached Files

en_xml.zip (3.1 KB, 114 views)

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vi_	2011-12-21 , 11:35
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Originally Posted by Remus

Decoded both en_US and en_GB for you since you didn't clearly specify which one you wanted.

Best of luck.

Thank you for the files.

The XML file appears to describe 2 layouts or 'modes. Normal and Full. However these could be two elements of the same vkb, one part being what we see in this file, another part for the stuff we cannot:

Code:

<screen>
		<mode name="NORMAL"/>
		<mode name="FULL"/>
	</screen>

Yet the XML contains two sections called Normal and thumb!

Code:

<keyboard layout="NORMAL" default_key_size="0">

Code:

<keyboard layout="THUMB" default_key_size="3">

It would seem 'thumb' describes the layout of the vkb. The 'normal' layout does not seem to correlate with anything on the n900. Not the vkb nor the real one. It does however look slightly similar to the one on the n810 with the 'bank' of number keys like on a regular keyboard.

The thumb layout describes the first 3 lines (the one with letters, numbers, symbols) and their 4 possible combinations.

At no point is the 4th row described in the XML file. The fourth row contains the 'keyboard functions (cut, copy, paste), space bar, 'symbols' key and return.

Strangely enough though, didn't pr1.1 have a different vkb?

So what does a de-compiled pr1.1 vkb xml file look like?

This leaves the final mystery of what are the different keysizes:

Code:

<keyboard layout="NORMAL" default_key_size="0">

Code:

<keyboard layout="THUMB" default_key_size="3">

And how does this relate to the field keysize?:

Code:

<keysizes>
		<size height="35" baseline="26" width="35" margin_top="0" margin_left="0" />
		<size height="35" baseline="26" width="50" margin_top="0" margin_left="0" />
		<size height="35" baseline="26" width="55" margin_top="0" margin_left="0" />
		<size height="55" baseline="41" width="72" margin_top="0" margin_left="0" />
		<size height="55" baseline="41" width="143" margin_top="0" margin_left="0" />
	</keysizes>

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