Originally Posted by zimon

Can Symbian run on multicore-CPU-platforms, does it have a thread-safe code? I think not, neither does WP. Both are unusable for high end phones.

Originally Posted by specc

Even the N95 had a dual core and it ran Symbian. Symbian is thread safe for sure, and has been so for ages.

What is a high end phone anyway these days?

Originally Posted by vi_

So. You may think that the Ovi store was a failure. You are entitled to that opinion. Yet the facts are, that on four of six inhabited continents, it was the most used app store. You may think Symbian is obsolete and useless. You are entitled to that opinion. Yet the facts are, that on five of the six inhabited continents, Symbian was the bestselling smartphone OS. And you may think that Nokia's smartphones are not fit to sell in any market. You are entitled to that opinion. The facts are, that until Elop destroyd the brand just 12 months ago, Nokia branded smartphones were easily selling more than all iPhones and all Samsung smartphones added together - and growing at about the same rate, while growing profits too. The real paying customers in China, rest of Asia, Africa, Latin America, and to a lesser extent, in Europe and Oceania - were snapping up those Nokia smartphones quite happily. And today, that most award-winning 808 PureView superphone, it also runs on Symbian, on tech so advanced you cannot build the same phone on an Android or Windows Phone OS. Symbian is not dead (yet)

Originally Posted by specc

I mean, this is just a rant with no substance at all. He got the rhetoric right, but that is all. As much as I like Symbian, it is outdated, and Nokia proved to be unable to reform it into a modern OS. That is the fact. The 808 PureView has been in the oven for 5 years - FIVE YEARS. Five years ago iOS and Android did not even exist, and today Android rule the world. If Nokia had used Android, it would have taken 5 months to get the PureView camera working.

Ahonen is a joke.

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris

the os closest to die is apples iOS. It had its peak and will now slowly fade away and die, after that its android's turn. Imagine the unimaginable and you might be ready to predict the future.

Originally Posted by drvar

Pureview's 5 years devlopment has nothing to do with OS. If those 5 years were because of an OS, then SE would beaten N8 and few others or at least be the same. This development was more on a hardware wise.

Originally Posted by timoph

ah. Tomi Ahonen. If you want a constant stream of Nokia bashing he's your man to follow. He does have a few valid points but he really needs to find himself a girl or something to get some other things into his life. Putting that much time and energy to bashing nokia doesn't seem very healthy.

edit: didn't read that post. I've read enough of his stuff.

Originally Posted by specc

That wasn't my point. The point was that Android has taken 3-4 years to develop into a full blown OS supporting an uncountable permutation of hardware. If Nokia had used Android, they wouldn't use 5 years to make the PureView HW work on that platform. Max 5 months (my guess, probably less). On a second thought, they probably would use 5 years, and it would still be buggy when it launched.

The second point was that they had 5 years to develop Symbian for that HW.

Hence, Ahonen's rant is nothing but pointless rant. He has serious problems.