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2012-05-15
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#12
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Originally Posted by erendorn
You need to become QML2 fan.
it puzzles me a bit
I'm mainly asking that as a QML fan, though.
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2012-05-16
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@ London
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#13
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Originally Posted by rainisto
lol
You need to become QML2 fan.
I did not know of that other QML
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2012-05-16
, 19:25
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#14
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Originally Posted by ZogG
I know Qt 5 is not released, but alpha is out and this is supposed to be Development sub-forum, so I figured someone here might know as my google foo was not good enough.
Maaaaaaan, use search next time, Qt5 is not released yet (http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt_5.0):
Alpha released on April 3, 2012.
Beta release expected by April – May.
Final release expected by the end of June.
And there are few threads that mentioned Qt5 here. But if you still want Qt5 components - free to add repo:
http://qtlabs.org.br/~lmoura/qt5/conf/
And please, please, please next time use google and search on the forum before asking, on those kinda questions you can find answer in 5 minutes of search, instead of just making new threads, polluting forum and waiting till someone would do instead of you(yes it would take more time to write post and wait)
Is the lmoura port a one man show and there are no developers here?
Btw. Quim mentioned in qt-interest mailing list that N9 knowledge might be found at talk.maemo.org. Another sub-forum I should use then, even if my questions are with regards to development?
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2012-05-16
, 19:42
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#15
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Originally Posted by rainisto
I don't see why an application could not ship full Qt runtime in a pinch. Qt4 & qt5 can exist side by side so the binary compatibility should not be an issue.
Harmattan is and will be 4.7.4 till the end of times (because all PR releases need to be binary compatible, ie ovi store requirement).
But you can beta test Qt5 on Harmattan by following http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/SettingU...vironmentForN9 or using lmoura link. Community might do a port but I doubt it.
I'm not 100% familiar with Harmattan security/permission issues though, especially as it relates to multimediakit.
Btw. I wonder what is the "Community" you refer to? Is there somewhere a village where the mayor has the keys to N9 repos so there could be dependency to Qt5 in a .dep and it would automatically install them?
The trac link you posted looks very interesting.
Thanks!
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2012-05-16
, 20:41
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#16
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Originally Posted by grego
Really... you joined a forum but don't know what a community is? Not trying to be a dick or anything but They are talking about the maemo community (developers on this forum) who have made numerous applications for maemo/meego phones.
I don't see why an application could not ship full Qt runtime in a pinch. Qt4 & qt5 can exist side by side so the binary compatibility should not be an issue.
I'm not 100% familiar with Harmattan security/permission issues though, especially as it relates to multimediakit.
Btw. I wonder what is the "Community" you refer to? Is there somewhere a village where the mayor has the keys to N9 repos so there could be dependency to Qt5 in a .dep and it would automatically install them?
The trac link you posted looks very interesting.
Thanks!
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2012-05-16
, 21:55
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@ not your mom's FOSS basement
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#17
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...Qt Widgets only an Add-on? Interesting times. Because it was a core component of Qt long time. With that in mind, maybe Tizen will take off one day, due to the webification and 'making it simpler but less feature-containing' of development, as it seems now even on desktops.
Last edited by don_falcone; 2012-05-16 at 22:02.
Last edited by don_falcone; 2012-05-16 at 22:02.
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2012-05-16
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#18
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If you want to discuss the role of Qt Widgets you can go to http://qt-project.org/forums & http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/ where there are many discussions about it, some of them ongoing right now.
In the context of maemo.org Qt Widgets hasn't got a significant role for a long while (if it ever did).
In the context of maemo.org Qt Widgets hasn't got a significant role for a long while (if it ever did).
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2012-05-20
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@ Brazil
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#19
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Originally Posted by qgil
QWidget class ? It is the base of GUI in Qt and there are many Maemo 5 and some Maemo 4 softwares written in Qt (and PyQt).
In the context of maemo.org Qt Widgets hasn't got a significant role for a long while (if it ever did).
QWidgets was initially expected to work on MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan, only in the beginning of 2011 Nokia made it clear that QML would be the only way to create GUI for Harmattan. Many porting of Maemo 4/5 projects to Harmattan were delayed or at least simplified due to lack of support of QWidgets for Harmattan. For example, see how the text editors for Harmattan are over simplified w.r.t. Maemo 5, because QTextView/QTextEdit doesn't work anymore after Harmattan PR1.2.
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Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
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Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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2012-05-28
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#20
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Originally Posted by chiron
I guess I should have articulated myself more clearly.
Really... you joined a forum but don't know what a community is? Not trying to be a dick or anything but They are talking about the maemo community (developers on this forum) who have made numerous applications for maemo/meego phones.
rainisto mentioned lmoura's port and hypothetical community port. How would a "Community" supported port differ from lmoura's port?
Since he mentioned it I was vaguely hoping there would exist a Nokia sanctioned repository that community could contribute to and where packages could be signed with more permissions. Or that "Community" could somehow do more than lmoura.
But I think the trac link provides the answer. As I suspected, the security issues require flashing of new firmware if everything is to be supported.
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1. Qt 5 has Qt Quick and Qt WebKit as Essentials modules - see http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Essentials-Modules . Qt Widget is as Add-on module http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Add-ons-Modules - meaning that is not guaranteed to be available in all Qt 5 based platforms.
2. As for today Qt Quick Compoennts for Desktop is a research project not part of Qt 5 releases, not even as an Add-on. See https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop & a fresh update at http://codecereal.blogspot.com/2012/...ng-update.html
3. Nokia hasn't announced any Qt 5 plans for Symbian or Harmattan.
http://maemo.org/profile/view/qgil/ + http://qt-project.org