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2012-06-21 , 09:35
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#51
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"Microsoft Surface with Windows 8 Professional will come in 64 GB and 128 GB storage models and will have a retail price comparable with competitive Ultrabook class PCs."

Do you think you will get one 128 GB for $1000? above that I think it would be to expensive.
Indeed. $1000 would be back to where we started (WinXP tablets that sucked bad).

$500, and a Wacom digitizer running on x86 (even the modern Atoms or AMD APU would be fine) would be the game changer.

$1000 for a pretty piece of hardware is simply not worth it.

And regarding the keyboard, mini-chiclet keyboards suck harder than they already do at less than 13 inches. The Transformer dock style would suit it so much better (plus the extra battery and ports)

Lastly, I think MS telling OEMs (the companies that made them ultra rich now) to sod off is a horrible, horrible idea.

Should MS stop licensing Windows/abandon the whole OEM licensing tier, I think the Year of the Linux Desktop would be pretty near.
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2012-06-21 , 10:03
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I think that "will the tablet world change now?" is the wrong question. The right question is "how can we change the tablet world?"

One thing that went wrong here is that we backed the wrong horse. We gave too much support to Nokia all along. We were betrayed every step of the way, and we let it happen. Look at how the world of computer users is run. Groups of users tend to be owned by one company or another. We didn't start becoming liberated till Nokia threw us away. I think that the biggest burst of creativity among developers here happened after it became clear that no more updates for the N900 were coming from Nokia.

Enough users need to band together independently to ensure that they no longer become drones of the major manufacturers. Fanboyism is slavery.
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#53
Originally Posted by Hurrian View Post
Indeed. $1000 would be back to where we started (WinXP tablets that sucked bad).

$500, and a Wacom digitizer running on x86 (even the modern Atoms or AMD APU would be fine) would be the game changer.

$1000 for a pretty piece of hardware is simply not worth it.

And regarding the keyboard, mini-chiclet keyboards suck harder than they already do at less than 13 inches. The Transformer dock style would suit it so much better (plus the extra battery and ports)

Lastly, I think MS telling OEMs (the companies that made them ultra rich now) to sod off is a horrible, horrible idea.

Should MS stop licensing Windows/abandon the whole OEM licensing tier, I think the Year of the Linux Desktop would be pretty near.
$500 way to low. It's almost half the prize of a highend android phone like Iphone or SG3. a low price is not always the right way for a exclusive highend product. Apple's products are great example of that. Almost all products are higher than the competitions, but if you put specs and performance its not better at all.

But the customers gladly paying hugh amount for their products and they are happy so that is the most important.

The price alone is not important, but what you think you get for the price it whats matter. That is also the why apple have so few products in line. The are working with branding and exslusivity and not with prize. Microsoft can have on line of products release every now and then, called surface and let others like nokia cover the the other areas.

Also, micrsoft can release a product were windows 8 run at its best, while others like nokia just have to guess were it runs as well as possible.
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2012-06-21 , 16:12
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#54
Originally Posted by geneven View Post
I think that "will the tablet world change now?" is the wrong question. The right question is "how can we change the tablet world?"

One thing that went wrong here is that we backed the wrong horse. We gave too much support to Nokia all along. We were betrayed every step of the way, and we let it happen. Look at how the world of computer users is run. Groups of users tend to be owned by one company or another. We didn't start becoming liberated till Nokia threw us away. I think that the biggest burst of creativity among developers here happened after it became clear that no more updates for the N900 were coming from Nokia.

Enough users need to band together independently to ensure that they no longer become drones of the major manufacturers. Fanboyism is slavery.
Dude, the users never change the world. It's always the companies that shows the way even if the users always believe they do it.

It's like saying Maemo is so open windows is so closed. What does that mean? It's FALSE. Freedom and openness is different for all users as well as machines. Same with products...ummmm, what am I talking about?

I'm too damn smart for this forum.

Good bye!
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The future of tablets according to Microsoft:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrWP...layer_embedded
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I'm too damn smart for this forum.

Good bye!
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I'm too damn smart for this forum.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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2012-06-22 , 10:20
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$500 way to low. It's almost half the prize of a highend android phone like Iphone or SG3. a low price is not always the right way for a exclusive highend product. Apple's products are great example of that. Almost all products are higher than the competitions, but if you put specs and performance its not better at all.
The New iPad (16GB, high PPI display) is <$500.

And that's with Apple supposedly having big, fat profit margins.

Your move.
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Of cource I know!

It stands for SEE MORE ART..ist... Damn it, you are right. I don't know.

That's why am back here with you at TMO.

Now, where is my surface tablet?
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That's why am back here with you at TMO.

Now, where is my surface tablet?
You show extraordinary communication skills. I suggest you to write an application for council membership. Maybe some certain fellow councilors will somehow manage in you receiving one from MS hardware division, err, i mean Nokia.
 
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