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2013-11-11
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#712
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Seems a little unlikely to me; I rarely have many apps open, and I've seen the Store crash itself with nothing else open at all. OOM would also surely happen with a closed kernel too, and I've never seen these crashes outside openmode.
I have been told the "apps crashing when installing something" problem is due to running low on memeory on the device, but cannot verify that as I have not ever encountered that problem myself.
Originally Posted by juiceme
Certainly grob, as I said the Store dies a lot (and didn't do so without openmode), built-in settings apps, etc. I can't think if anything non-Nokia crashes for this reason offhand, will experiment.
Are those some self-installed applications or the defult set that come with N9 and are always running (grob, fenix,...?)
EDIT: Wait, yes I can. Warehouse has the same problem, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't have a preloader.
Further info, after testing with a fresh flash. This may be old news to many, but I'm just pooling all the info I can collect.
These crashes always happen in the actual install, not while downloading or unpacking (unsurprisingly). They can also happen when uninstalling apps.
Unless the app killer is extremely overzealous, or memory usage spikes faster than I can check, OOM is not the only problem here - I managed to get Warehouse and grob to crash with >300MB of RAM free.
Some apps don't crash at all, despite everything else doing so. I also haven't seen anything running directly from Terminal crash yet (Fingerterm, however, will crash), including apps which do normally.
Can't test any further as it's mysteriously stopped happening for a bit.
Last edited by Eztran; 2013-11-14 at 14:40.
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2013-11-16
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I have installed ubiboot-02_0.3.5_301013.tar successfully on black n9. However, I found
/usr/bin/show_png /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.png (which is in /sbin/preinit_harmattan) didn't work, it didn't show my customized png file.
/usr/bin/show_png /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.png (which is in /sbin/preinit_harmattan) didn't work, it didn't show my customized png file.
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2013-11-16
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Originally Posted by Eztran
me too. Apps self closing after install or uninstall, but not everytimes, this only happened in open mode, but not in normal mode
Seems a little unlikely to me; I rarely have many apps open, and I've seen the Store crash itself with nothing else open at all. OOM would also surely happen with a closed kernel too, and I've never seen these crashes outside openmode.
Certainly grob, as I said the Store dies a lot (and didn't do so without openmode), built-in settings apps, etc. I can't think if anything non-Nokia crashes for this reason offhand, will experiment.
EDIT: Wait, yes I can. Warehouse has the same problem, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't have a preloader.
Further info, after testing with a fresh flash. This may be old news to many, but I'm just pooling all the info I can collect.
These crashes always happen in the actual install, not while downloading or unpacking (unsurprisingly). They can also happen when uninstalling apps.
Unless the app killer is extremely overzealous, or memory usage spikes faster than I can check, OOM is not the only problem here - I managed to get Warehouse and grob to crash with >300MB of RAM free.
Some apps don't crash at all, despite everything else doing so. I also haven't seen anything running directly from Terminal crash yet (Fingerterm, however, will crash), including apps which do normally.
Can't test any further as it's mysteriously stopped happening for a bit.
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2013-11-16
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Originally Posted by gemfield
You checked that it was the "/sbin/preinit_harmattan" for sure, and not "/sbin/preinit" for example?
I have installed ubiboot-02_0.3.5_301013.tar successfully on black n9. However, I found
/usr/bin/show_png /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.png (which is in /sbin/preinit_harmattan) didn't work, it didn't show my customized png file.
What did get shown when your boot picture should have loaded, nothing or just the pulsing "NOKIA" logo?
To make sure you really ran code in the preinit to the place where you show the picture, you could add something like;
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echo "testing" >> /root/my_test_file
Then, after the boot go and check that the statement had executed.
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2013-11-16
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Originally Posted by TMavica
After that happens, I'd like to see a snip off your syslog, if something can be seen from there...?
me too. Apps self closing after install or uninstall, but not everytimes, this only happened in open mode, but not in normal mode
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2013-11-17
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Yes, it is /sbin/preinit_harmattan.
You checked that it was the "/sbin/preinit_harmattan" for sure, and not "/sbin/preinit" for example?
What did get shown when your boot picture should have loaded, nothing or just the pulsing "NOKIA" logo?
To make sure you really ran code in the preinit to the place where you show the picture, you could add something like;or something next to the place where you show the bootup picture.Code:echo "testing" >> /root/my_test_file
Then, after the boot go and check that the statement had executed.
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echo "gemfield2" > /root/gemfield2.log
if [ -f /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.png -a -x /usr/bin/show_png ]; then
/usr/bin/show_png /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.png
echo "gemfield3" > /root/gemfield3.log
# fallback to bmp
elif [ -f /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.bmp -a -x /usr/sbin/show_bmp ]; then
/usr/sbin/show_bmp -i /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/system-services/booting.bmp
fi
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2013-11-17
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#719
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Originally Posted by gemfield
Well, almost always. Unless you trash your cal and/or mess with your MTD you will most propably be able to fix your device with a reflash.
Hi, juiceme, another question:
As long as I didn't flash /dev/mtd0, then N9 can always be recovered by flasher tool?
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2013-11-17
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#720
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Here's one (why I haven't looked at the syslog yet, I can only explain with 'whoops'). Can't tell exactly where it happens as I forgot to get the time, but it was definitely within this (could be line 13 onwards? Certainly after this you can see apps exiting/restarting)
After that happens, I'd like to see a snip off your syslog, if something can be seen from there...?
I would be intrested in knowing what are the apps that people see crashing anyway? Are those some self-installed applications or the defult set that come with N9 and are always running (grob, fenix,...?)