You know, Mikecomputing, you may just take it to the next level and stop accepting cancer. Revolt against the possible causes.
There are plenty surrounding us and embedded in gadget driven lifestyle..
I really hope you do that when off TMO.

Mine is below 1000, in "picking" since 11th of Dec, nor further info for 3days , I have it sent to Belgium.

I wasn't referring to this one sentence or its grammar, actually.

Please elaborate then. By the way, in the first sentence, I should have added that "not all" webshop invitations have been sent according to preorder date. Most webshop invitations were sent in proper order I think. But not all.

I give up.

Thanks, that's the one sentence in this thread that I find useful in the last 3-4 hours. ste-phan: there is hope though, it has been reported that the status may be delayed, so your device might be closer to "Shipped" than you think.

Also, it looks like Jolla isn't working this weekend, which is fair enough.

Same here, In picking (#200000657) since 11-Dec with no updates. As I can see from the spreadsheet, it seems that no one from the UK has had a "Shipped" update yet.

Very simple and perfectly understandable by Kabouik:

1) There is a pre-order sequence or order of Jollas. The order in which you placed your order in wave one or two.

2) Then Jolla sent out invitations to the Helsinki purchase event. These apparently went out to the first pre-orderers in pre-order sequence. So far, so good.

3) Then Jolla sent out webshop invitations, so you could complete the pre-order. This is where it all started to go wrong. They did not follow the pre-order order, but sent the webshop invitations out in some other order. Some people who pre-ordered later, got their invitations to the webshop earlier than others who had pre-ordered before them.

4) Now there is another order of orders, the sequence in which people placed those orders completions to the webshop itself. This order is dependent on the webshop invitations as well as peoples time of getting to pay the order there etc. Note that because people got invitations not in the same sequence as they made their orders, they could not complete their orders in the same order even if they were as fast as humanly possible.

5) When Jolla started shipping, they did not choose to follow the pre-order sequence, but instead apparently are following the webshop order completion sequence, which can be quite random based on when people got their invites (remember, they didn't come out in order) and when they completed their order, even if they did so before the December 2nd deadline. Even if we disregard the DNA sales and pick-ups, it seems completely inexcusable that they didn't respect the original pre-order order at this point with mail shippings. But for some reason they did not.

The discrepancy between the order in point 1) and the order in point 5), added to the delays in completing the pre-orders and separate DNA sales, has caused many early orders to wait for their orders far longer than those who ordered later. There are several day one pre-orderers who are still waiting for their orders after people ordering much later have already gotten theirs.

Get it now? I think Kabouik was very clear.

Now, if Jolla actually told us some actual information on the shipping process we wouldn't have to keep guessing - but they seem he**bent on feeding us only PR mumbo jumbo.

Have you guys missed this tweet from cybette?

https://twitter.com/cybette/status/4...243264/photo/1

What is this? Where am I? Is this Candid Camera?
It's not that I wouldn't be intellectually able to grasp what he wrote. It's just beyond me how someone can write a whole thesis on the order in which orders are processed.... and then you come along and literally use words like

Nothing goes wrong. Devices are being shipped, FCS!

This is a forum thread about Jolla pre-order tracking. Hence we should probably discuss that, not for example candid cameras or your reading comprehension. But I'll play.

Some people here are trying to help others by providing information. Kabouik did just that. I have no clue as to what you are trying to accomplish with your comments. Put those efforts down, I guess.

Someone takes the effort of writing a long informative post - all it takes is a WTF one-liner to bully him. Great going. I'm sure you are happy about your great efforts. You could have, of course, just ignored Kabouik's post if it didn't interest you.

As for going wrong, Jolla's pre-order process certainly went wrong. They said so much themselves. Nobody is saying the devices aren't shipping, they are saying the order and schedule of those shipments went wrong. The details, of course, why and what exactly are cloudy because we have to piece them ourselves.