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Originally Posted by ste-phan
I forgot to ask: does this mean that you can put the phone down on any flat surface without fearing the glass touching it, avoiding silly scratches? This isn't quite obvious to appreciate from any picture I've seen. Please say yes :-)
-luckily the display is sunken in the shiny black plastick bezel, not sticking out, if you know what I mean (a design feature of the N9 and some Lumia's)
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Originally Posted by gaelic
I personally don't use Whatsapp.
Do you really think many people are not using Calendar, Mail or Browser & Whatsapp?
wtf
In my job looking after web and mail servers I come across customers who do not use mail on their phones or desktops at all. They'll use gmail or my IMAP mail through the web interface as their scared off trying to set up a mail account with server names, port numbers and authentication.
Same goes for calendars. Honestly, I think some smartphone owners just use them for games/apps and completely miss out the PIM stuff as they can't figure out how to set it up if it's not handed to them in a one click and you're done UI.
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Originally Posted by Philippe
I appreciate you have limited resources but it's obviously a bit of a gamble ceding an important part of the user experience to Apple and Google in this way.
Indeed if you find my post this is what I said. Apple broke MTP programs, not removed the support..It worked fine with the file tranfer app which we deemed good enough to deal with the "Apple not supporting common standards" problem.
Originally Posted by Philippe
I doubt anyone would expect Jolla to support Windows XP which is due to exit paid-for support next year (finally). The latest version of OSX however isn't a 'random OS' and since we're dealing with early adopters, non-business users and geeks there's probably a disproportionate amount of Mac users in Jolla's customer base.
Unfortunately there are no resources to write apps for random Os-es out there. Which is also why we do not support Windows XP either explicitly (although it works there with some convincing and updates)
As I said earlier, I'm ok with transferring files via sshfs over wifi but that's not really going to wash with less technical users who are used to just plugging a cable in.
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
The display is not flush with the chassis top/bottom, as these areas (chassis top/bottom) are raised meaning the display is ever so slightly below it. But we're not talking a great deal, sub-1mm difference probably, and barely imperceptible. The difference might even be due to manufacturing tolerance. A small piece of grit on a desk would have no problem touching the display, despite the raised chassis.
I forgot to ask: does this mean that you can put the phone down on any flat surface without fearing the glass touching it, avoiding silly scratches? This isn't quite obvious to appreciate from any picture I've seen. Please say yes :-)
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Originally Posted by aegis
So smartphones are used as dumbphones and/or games by many users.
I personally don't use Whatsapp.
In my job looking after web and mail servers I come across customers who do not use mail on their phones or desktops at all. They'll use gmail or my IMAP mail through the web interface as their scared off trying to set up a mail account with server names, port numbers and authentication.
Same goes for calendars. Honestly, I think some smartphone owners just use them for games/apps and completely miss out the PIM stuff as they can't figure out how to set it up if it's not handed to them in a one click and you're done UI.
But for these users I guess Jolla is the wrong decision (-> games: iOS or Android)
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Originally Posted by gaelic
Totally. I've borrowed iPhones from family members that when you go into what they use it'll be...
So smartphones are used as dumbphones and/or games by many users.
But for these users I guess Jolla is the wrong decision (-> games: iOS or Android)
Phone
SMS
Games
Snapchat
They'll use gmail in the browser, enter their contacts twice in their phone and PC and the same with calendars.
I know someone with both an iPod and an iPhone because they weren't aware the iPod was redundant and you could sync your music on your iPhone. But also they're designer brand whores and it's two logos instead of one.
Some people just don't deserve smartphones.
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Originally Posted by aegis
Unfortunately even plugging a right cable in is too much for many ordinary people that own smartphones
but that's not really going to wash with less technical users who are used to just plugging a cable in.
One feature that many ordinary people like in smartphones is the camera.
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Originally Posted by olento
That is already available with Jolla for Google's paying customers.
- lack of Google Calendar (this is a must)
Hopefully Jolla will soon support CalDav and it works with Goole. I don't currently use Google's calendar put I might be interested to use it for some use cases. I would also need better multicalendar support to actually use Google calendar
- lack of Wifi Hotspot (I saw somebody mentioning console hack for USB tethering, and it should be adequate for laptop use, but I'm using also wifi-only iPad and thus need the Wifi. Also I don't want to carry USB cable around to connect my laptop to internet. I'm travelling a lot and there aren't always free wifi connections around )
- volume rocker button on my Jolla seems quite flimsy, there's ~ 0.5-0.8mm of leeway in the direction of front-backside. Haven't found any mention of this in earlier posts, so can somebody please confirm is this normal or should I RMA it? The power button seems ok.
- the hollow backside because of the Other Half makes the phone feel quite cheap. I should find something to stuff the phone with. maybe Blu-Tack (sinitarra)
- I miss the smart dialing system on my current phone. I'm not sure how to describe it, but let's try: To phone "john", i just dial 56 (jkl, nmo) and it starts making suggestions from the contacts list based on those number/alphabet combinations that they match. It's so much faster than selecting "J" and then scrolling around the contacts. Also it's a free search, so it matches all the fields. Is the contact list categorized based on surname or first name? It should't matter!
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2013-12-19
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Originally Posted by gaelic
Use WPA2 AES! It's good for gaming and good for everything, now move on guys!
I know. Jolla is still lacking WPA EAP.
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Unfortunately there are no resources to write apps for random Os-es out there. Which is also why we do not support Windows XP either explicitly (although it works there with some convincing and updates)