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2008-02-19 , 17:39
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Originally Posted by vbrilon View Post
There's not really been a strong (legal) use case for this frankly, but if there's one I am missing, please let me know. Please also remember that the ITVC includes a pretty powerful developer API so a 3rd party developer could build this feature in pretty easily.
I usually make backups of my movies for my nieces and nephews who handle things like any kid would, just give them a copy and let them break it, scratch it, without having to worry about replacing it with another original (read: spending another $20), all they have to do is insert it and hit play, I also like to cut the logos as well as the movie credits and any other previews and the preferred container that I use is ISO since my dvd players can play that and not avis. I guess this requisite only applies to people who are in the same boat.


Er...can you explain this? ITVC has a status bar showing the progress of your conversion.
It would be nice if it had some sort of "time left until complete" progress bar, if it does, then my apologies, I did not see it.
 
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2008-02-19 , 17:55
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I like to use tablet-encode simply because I can batch process a bunch of files overnight. Also because I'm on Linux or Mac OS X.

I can create a script to download a show (or a number of shows) off of my tivo, decrypt it, and convert it to a tablet-compatible avi. Then I just start it up and go to bed.
 
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2008-02-19 , 18:00
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Originally Posted by vbrilon View Post
Er...can you explain this? ITVC has a status bar showing the progress of your conversion.
What i found confusing at first was the Estimate "more than xx minutes remaining" I can understand how this makes sense from an engineering and usability standpoint.
- It is easier to define a meaningfull lower bound than a meaningfull upper bound in video coding
- It is good to know that you shouldn't expect results any time soon

But in my opinion it doesn't really make sense for the normal End User
- The User wants to know when he can put the video on to the tablet and go away.
- The estimate isn't necessarily true, the time estimates can vary.
I would change that to either "approximately xx minutes remaining" or "calculating remaining time" until you have a better prediction (For me that was after about 5%)

I liked the clean interface, but i missed some "Power User" functionality. For example setting the audio and video quality independantly.
A short dropdown menu to select the encoding quality might also be handy.

But those are just some minor concerns. As far as conversion Programs go it seems pretty good.

Bye,
NsN
 
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2008-02-20 , 00:04
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Hi NsN,

Those are all very valid points, and good suggestions. I do like the changing of the wording to make it more clear what's going on.

I am traveling this week, and unfortunately have *horrible* Internet connectivity. Could I ask you to file some of those ideas as enhancement requests in the Maemo Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org)? I'll process them when I am back in the land of normal connectivity next week.
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2008-02-20 , 00:07
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Originally Posted by superstar View Post
I usually make backups of my movies for my nieces and nephews who handle things like any kid would, just give them a copy and let them break it, scratch it, without having to worry about replacing it with another original (read: spending another $20), all they have to do is insert it and hit play, I also like to cut the logos as well as the movie credits and any other previews and the preferred container that I use is ISO since my dvd players can play that and not avis. I guess this requisite only applies to people who are in the same boat.
So let me answer this with a question -- if the ITVC had the ability to transcode VOB files that were *unencrypted* would that be just as useful in this scenario? Or are we just moving one task to a different piece of software? Since you still need to find a way to (legally or not - depending on your geographical location) remove the encryption from the DVD in the first place?
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2008-02-20 , 05:05
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Originally Posted by vbrilon View Post
So let me answer this with a question -- if the ITVC had the ability to transcode VOB files that were *unencrypted* would that be just as useful in this scenario?
Yes.
Or are we just moving one task to a different piece of software? Since you still need to find a way to (legally or not - depending on your geographical location) remove the encryption from the DVD in the first place?
No, I don't need the ITVC to remove the encryption, I like what I'm using (DVDShrink)
 
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2008-02-20 , 06:41
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No, I don't need the ITVC to remove the encryption, I like what I'm using (DVDShrink)
But that's my point. Doesn't DVDShrink already convert the DVD to an AVI file (or whatever) once it removes the encryption? Or does it only produce VOB files?
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2008-02-20 , 06:52
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Originally Posted by vbrilon View Post
But that's my point. Doesn't DVDShrink already convert the DVD to an AVI file (or whatever) once it removes the encryption? Or does it only produce VOB files?
It produces a choice of either VOB files or an ISO
 
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2008-02-20 , 12:15
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Originally Posted by mrklaw View Post
I can create a script to download a show (or a number of shows) off of my tivo, decrypt it, and convert it to a tablet-compatible avi. Then I just start it up and go to bed.
I have to 1-up you: I've got a menu item in my digital TV box (VDR): "Move to Internet Tablet" which encodes and copies the currently selected recording to a usb-connected tablet. Patented One-Click-on-the-remote technology, thanks to tablet-encode!
 
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2008-02-20 , 13:53
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I have to 1-up you: I've got a menu item in my digital TV box (VDR): "Move to Internet Tablet" which encodes and copies the currently selected recording to a usb-connected tablet. Patented One-Click-on-the-remote technology, thanks to tablet-encode!
Now *that's* just plain out cool.
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