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2015-01-21 , 14:35
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Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
Heck, I remember using one of the original Macs. Memory: 128K. Resolution: 512x342. Color palette: Monochrome. Overlapping, resizable windows worked just fine.
I still have one*


* well, it's an SE/30 with 80MB RAM but the screen is still the same.
 

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2015-01-21 , 16:22
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#172
Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
Heck, I remember using one of the original Macs. Memory: 128K. Resolution: 512x342. Color palette: Monochrome. Overlapping, resizable windows worked just fine.
On my Galaxy Pro Tab 8.4 I can make floating resizable windows. But I don't like the way they minimize. My preference would be that minimizing a window puts a marker in notifications so that when you pull it down you can bring the window back up. Ideally if you were, say playing a video or streaming on youtube you would continue to hear the music when the app is minimized. That works for certain apps but not all. Looking forward to seeing what Jolla does.
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2015-01-21 , 17:10
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#173
Originally Posted by aegis View Post
Seriously though, I would utterly detest overlapping windows in the multitasking view.
Overlapping resizable windows would render the multitasking view pointless.
That was the whole point.
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2015-01-21 , 17:52
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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
Overlapping resizable windows would render the multitasking view pointless.
That was the whole point.
I do not see why. The multitasking view is just the equivalent of the task switcher on a desktop, with the additional ability to use a couple of shortcuts.
They would still be useful, even in case you could have multiple visible windows. And the fact that you can have mutiple overlapping windows does not mean you only have to use them; Most of the time, on a desktop computer, I am looking at a maximized window anyway.

The problem of resizable windows, is that it would be hard to interact with them on a touch screen without wasting a lot of space, but a tiling window manager would be nice.
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#175
One thing is good for desktop is not so good for tablets and other touch devices
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Originally Posted by coderus View Post
One thing is good for desktop is not so good for tablets and other touch devices
Small-screen touch devices (maybe around < 7" is the limit) require a different paradigm from a traditional computer desktop, but on sizes up from that I certainly would like to have a proper desktop with multiple freely-scalable-freely-positionable applications.
 

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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Small-screen touch devices (maybe around < 7" is the limit) require a different paradigm from a traditional computer desktop, but on sizes up from that I certainly would like to have a proper desktop with multiple freely-scalable-freely-positionable applications.
It's hard for me to say where the exact cut off should be. I'm Ok with resizable windows on my Galaxy Note which is 5.7". Sometimes I make a few windows that are just a little smaller then the acutal screen size and then If they are offset a little I can tap the exposed area of the largely covered window to bring it to the front. At times useful when cutting and pasting for example. Also with HDMI can output to larger screen, which can come in handy. When using easy Debian on my N900 I might open a few windows and then that wonderful stylus helps to get around. But, as I have aged, my eyes are too weak for reading microscopic text anymore...
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2015-01-21 , 19:36
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#178
Unless I really need to show two things side by side, I always maximise everything, and this on a laptop with twice the screen size of the tablet. Most applications are optimised to make use of horizontal and not vertical screen space, so putting them next to one another usually doesn't give very good results, and putting two long strips of horizontal application above one another doesn't really work either. As to overlapping: what's the point in being able to see one unmaximised application and then one or more applications below it that you can only half see?
 

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2015-01-22 , 01:25
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#179
On my Sony z3 compact tablet, they've added 'Small apps' which are small floating widgets you can push about the screen such as a calculator or postit. Essentially they're the same idea as Desktop Accessories from the first Mac. They're surprisingly handy.

I'd love to see that kind of thing come to Sailfish. Full desktop style windows... No. If anyone has used an early Mac with a 9" screen you'll realise why everyone used to install Windowshade, run everything fullscreen and make extensive use of task switchers and the app menu. For similar reasons and more I think tablets are best used full screen.
 
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Originally Posted by nthn View Post
As to overlapping: what's the point in being able to see one unmaximised application and then one or more applications below it that you can only half see?
Drag and dropping something (usually an icon representing a file) from one screen (say an open email message) to another screen.
 

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