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I mentioned some time ago that I found it interesting that Putin had been cooler to the west and seemingly one step ahead of events since Snowden arrived in Moscow with his files...
Well all that is most definitely in the open air now...
and the only curious question remaining now is...
how long had they had access to those said sensitive files before this ...this... admission to such leaking or public disclosure of their knowledge of the contents of said documents...
How long have they really been privy to the files..?
How long did they or rather ...could they feign... not being aware of the contents of those files...for it is much easier to pretend you know nothing of the machinations of others..making adversaries believe you are in the dark...when in fact you are fully aware of their movements and goings-on...it makes for a very good position of strength to stand from...for a time...having your opponents believe they know things you do not...when in fact you are aware of everything happening.
In a specific example...it means they had the opportunity to watch and follow and track the movements of British spies...who they talked to..where they went...what they were doing...
It makes for a monumental great advantage all around...but an advantage which cannot be hidden forever...
That is my curiosity ... exactly how long have they been privy to these sensitive documents?
It may explain to us outside the shadowy dealings of statehood.... a rough idea of some of the many things that have occurred over the short or long haul of global events over the last few years...
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1568673.ece
Well all that is most definitely in the open air now...
and the only curious question remaining now is...
how long had they had access to those said sensitive files before this ...this... admission to such leaking or public disclosure of their knowledge of the contents of said documents...
How long have they really been privy to the files..?
How long did they or rather ...could they feign... not being aware of the contents of those files...for it is much easier to pretend you know nothing of the machinations of others..making adversaries believe you are in the dark...when in fact you are fully aware of their movements and goings-on...it makes for a very good position of strength to stand from...for a time...having your opponents believe they know things you do not...when in fact you are aware of everything happening.
In a specific example...it means they had the opportunity to watch and follow and track the movements of British spies...who they talked to..where they went...what they were doing...
It makes for a monumental great advantage all around...but an advantage which cannot be hidden forever...
That is my curiosity ... exactly how long have they been privy to these sensitive documents?
It may explain to us outside the shadowy dealings of statehood.... a rough idea of some of the many things that have occurred over the short or long haul of global events over the last few years...
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1568673.ece
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
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THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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2015-06-15
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I dont think putin had access to anything other then what shared to the world via reporters since snowden didn't shared the files directly and I do trust him about that. putin...well...its another story for another thread.
Its more likely some russian hacked james bond office or the MI6 HQ. I
mean if US could listen in on Merkels calls...why cant russans do the same with the british spy master?
Its more likely some russian hacked james bond office or the MI6 HQ. I
mean if US could listen in on Merkels calls...why cant russans do the same with the british spy master?
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2015-06-15
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
I would take everything from that article with a pinch of salt...
I mentioned some time ago that I found it interesting that Putin had been cooler to the west and seemingly one step ahead of events since Snowden arrived in Moscow with his files...
Well all that is most definitely in the open air now...
and the only curious question remaining now is...
how long had they had access to those said sensitive files before this ...this... admission to such leaking or public disclosure of their knowledge of the contents of said documents...
How long have they really been privy to the files..?
How long did they or rather ...could they feign... not being aware of the contents of those files...for it is much easier to pretend you know nothing of the machinations of others..making adversaries believe you are in the dark...when in fact you are fully aware of their movements and goings-on...it makes for a very good position of strength to stand from...for a time...having your opponents believe they know things you do not...when in fact you are aware of everything happening.
In a specific example...it means they had the opportunity to watch and follow and track the movements of British spies...who they talked to..where they went...what they were doing...
It makes for a monumental great advantage all around...but an advantage which cannot be hidden forever...
That is my curiosity ... exactly how long have they been privy to these sensitive documents?
It may explain to us outside the shadowy dealings of statehood.... a rough idea of some of the many things that have occurred over the short or long haul of global events over the last few years...
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1568673.ece
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...ed-falsehoods/
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2015-06-15
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Thanks for that wicket...
I know very little concerning the veracity of Brit media outlets...
It helps contextually whether the original article is believable at all.
I know very little concerning the veracity of Brit media outlets...
It helps contextually whether the original article is believable at all.
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
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Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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2015-06-16
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The spieses....
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2015-06-16
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
You got some canadian media on that:
Thanks for that wicket...
I know very little concerning the veracity of Brit media outlets...
It helps contextually whether the original article is believable at all.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/journal...iles-1.3112907
And cherry on top, sunday times now tries to take down Intercept's debunk with DMCA:
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/sno...dmca-takedown/
Greenwald’s post also includes a screengrab of the Times’s layout—and that’s what the Times used to pounce on their high-profile critic. In a legal notice sent Monday, the paper cites the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and claims the Intercept is violating the Times’s copyright of “the typographical arrangement of the front page.”
and it gets better:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...told-him.shtml
Journalism at its finest:
Um... well... I don't know the answer to that, George. Um.... All we know is that... um... this is effectively the official position of the British government. Um.... we picked up on it... um... a while ago. And we've been working on it and trying to stand it up through multiple sources. And when we approached the British government late last week with our evidence, they confirmed, effectively, what you read today in the Sunday Times.
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2015-06-16
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There are also alien spies among us. British media should write stories with fox muldor and less with James. What happened in the end x-files. Mr fox was beamed up in a spacecraft?
Last edited by Dave999; 2015-06-16 at 16:41.
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Yeah..I think so...became an anal-probe biatch... 
I mean ..look at him sittin' there all pretty-boy.
Perfect candidate.
See it now...
straight outta Deliverance ..(with more fitting alien reference)
"I'm gonna make you squeal like a Horta ...boy"
[Spock's lute playing "Dueling Banjos" in the background]
I mean ..look at him sittin' there all pretty-boy.
Perfect candidate.
See it now...
straight outta Deliverance ..(with more fitting alien reference)
"I'm gonna make you squeal like a Horta ...boy"
[Spock's lute playing "Dueling Banjos" in the background]
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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Originally Posted by Dave999
They've taken him to the engineers homeplanet, will be featured in Prometheus 2 (I want to believe!!!)
There are also alien spies among us. British media should write stories with fox muldor and less with James. What happened in the end x-files. Mr fox was beamed up in a spacecraft?
https://musingsofanxphile.files.word...xh3qo1_500.jpg
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium