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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra
How could they not have something to say ATM?
Question is: what should they tell, if there is nothing to tell ATM?
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2016-01-26
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Originally Posted by ZogG
Simple solution for you and many others. Do not buy their products and move on. The rest, wait and see...
Same question I ask you. If you let them do it for you again and again, why would you blame me for pointing that out again and again?
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Originally Posted by Dave999
There's a lot of reasons. No answer at this moment will make any customer - present and future - happy.
How could they not have something to say ATM?
Jolla is in a position that I just do not envy. Worse, I've no solution that I could think of that doesn't require even more money. All other scenarios I can think of will invariably anger the masses.
And coming clean will not be enough either. We all know that they gambled... and lost. Sadly their loss meant we lost too.
I'm not defending Jolla. I just can actually think outside of myself and not sure what I'd do in their position either.
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2016-01-26
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Originally Posted by gerbick
So why say send the Twitter message and comments in the blog if you don't have something you want to say?
There's a lot of reasons. No answer at this moment will make any customer - present and future - happy.
Jolla is in a position that I just do not envy. Worse, I've no solution that I could think of that doesn't require even more money. All other scenarios I can think of will invariably anger the masses.
And coming clean will not be enough either. We all know that they gambled... and lost. Sadly their loss meant we lost too.
I'm not defending Jolla. I just can actually think outside of myself and not sure what I'd do in their position either.
It's blog/info is around the corner and then ...nothing to say?
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2016-01-26
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Originally Posted by mscion
I have a Jolla phone, I ordered and would like a Jolla Tablet. I have poor eyesight and there are things I can see better on a tablet than a phone. My old Android Tablet died many months ago.
Simple solution for you and many others. Do not buy their products and move on. The rest, wait and see...
Now if Jolla had said months ago - sorry no tablets, no refunds, bye thanks for all the fish (sorry mixing my memes)
I would have been very annoyed, BUT I would have been able to draw a line in the snow and go out and buy another Android tablet.
It is the constant "soon" that is really starting to p*** me off. Each month we are told next month, so I wait, next month, so I wait.
At what point do I say "f*** em" and just go and buy a new Tablet?
Im not a fanboy(girl) Im not a "hater", Im just a "user",- or I would like to be, I would like to use a Jolla tablet, but I cant.
Im looking at new android tablets everyday, and seeing the benefits of a non existent (for me) tablet melting away like snow in the midday sun.
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2016-01-26
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Originally Posted by zenecho
Do it today.
It is the constant "soon" that is really starting to p*** me off. Each month we are told next month, so I wait, next month, so I wait.
At what point do I say "f*** em" and just go and buy a new Tablet?
I hate to say it (as I wanted a Jolla tablet too), but Jolla is in a terrible position right now. It has (temporarily for now!) gone bankrupt, it has failed to meet its commitments both to partners (making the hardware) and customers (wanting to receive the hardware), and has lost something like half its employees the last I've heard.
Even should they be able to get everything back to where they were early last year, their tablet hardware is now aging, they lack the resources and the staff to make any improvements, and they also lack the staff and the resources to provide anything like an adequate level of support.
Really, I don't see Jolla as any longer being able to continue using the business plan they started with. At this point, they've lost all their resources and momentum. If Jolla wishes to continue into the future with any sort of success, it essentially needs to reinvent itself, and come up with an entirely new plan (and find new resources!) for how it will use Sailfish...
Anyway, yeah, whatever they manage to do to wrap a bow on the tablet project, Jolla really is in no position now to either complete it satisfactorily or to give it any future attention.
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Originally Posted by Dave999
They have a plan but they don't want to tell us before they are ~99% sure they can actually implement it.
So why say send the Twitter message and comments in the blog if you don't have something you want to say?
It's blog/info is around the corner and then ...nothing to say?
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Originally Posted by att
Wait, are you saying that Jolla will tell us the truth this time?
They have a plan but they don't want to tell us before they have ~99% guarantee they can actually implement it.
Jolla implement something? Sounds good to me but I remain skeptical...ni we should be only a corner away
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Originally Posted by gerbick
It could. It just demands a lot from receiving side also, which is something especially this community despise as an idea ("nothing can be demanded from community ever in any way"-attitude). In a sense they tried kind of running dialogue approach by giving out information about their intentions and plans but so far it has only resulted in backlash and constant demands of only accurate and full information instead of something incomplete which stems up loads of speculation. And of course accusations of broken promises when "we're thinking about it" is taken as concrete promise. It has been like that since from the beginning, so changing to silence until everything is agreed, set up and polished wouldn't be surprising move at all. That's what I would definitely do.
Transparency could be a running dialogue as opposed to reports when there's something to be said. But Jolla - really it's quite rare for any company to be that transparent - doesn't seem to operate as such despite our protests.
I'd' say the silence is warranted until there is something to state. And unless each individual gets exactly what they want; nothing will satisfy everybody. If they deliver the tablets, "What took you so long?" and if they do partial shipments "How will you choose who gets theirs?" and if they do not ship them "I want my money back"... I really do not see a solution for them since they have failed in their original endeavors.
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Simply stated, you'd be pointing out every single bit of commercial products around you far too often to be productive.
Perhaps a different approach is necessary.
I'd' say the silence is warranted until there is something to state. And unless each individual gets exactly what they want; nothing will satisfy everybody. If they deliver the tablets, "What took you so long?" and if they do partial shipments "How will you choose who gets theirs?" and if they do not ship them "I want my money back"... I really do not see a solution for them since they have failed in their original endeavors.