That is a nice choice!

https://www.google.com/search?q=htc+...fgJ4kO7veNM%3A

Body-wise it is the nicest "looking"
Now we just need to cannibalize one and cram it full of linux goodness ...
and see if the Frankemo will walk.

CRAP!

what am I talking about!?!??!!?!
Hell the article is from 2005!

Hm...
the only thing going for it over the n810 is the telephony.
Ok....
I can live with it...
but we got to pretty much gut it.

It may be easier to simply get a new board jammed into an n810 (considering the size of the n810) and make it telephony enabled.
N810...4.3 resistive screen...nice speakers...separate power and usb connectors....excellently sized slider qwerty backlit keyboard that puts all others to shame..steel body...
a tank that will not quit.
I would rather take the pi or beagle and jam it in a n810...
make it a more current linux handheld tablet.

The big problem with a Pi is power management. The kernel has no support for any low-power states (and neither do basically any other single-board ARM computers). The Pi 3, when all IO (USB, HDMI etc) chips are turned off, consumes about 250 mA. This includes when the Pi is "off". There is no way to reduce power below this point short of removing power to the entire board via some external means. On a battery the size of those in the N900, N9 etc, this will last less than 10 hours at minimum usage. This is a big reason why nobody has made a proper "hackable" phone from any single-board Linux computer - there simply is no power management solution.

4. Motorola Droid 4
- great keyboard and the phone size of n950, that's my ideal.
I really miss the Tab button and sometimes I need the Alt too.

1. Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE
- great keyboard too but phone is too big.
I bought one 5" android phone and after a few months I returned to n950. The large screen phones are really uncomfortable - too big in a pocket and impossible to use with one hand. I assume most modern phones are made with 5"+ screens for better <s>porn</s> videos watching experience but I'd stuck with 4"- for their usability.

I almost cried looking at my single core ******** and 1200mAh battery.

meego_leenooks1, Photon Q has only 0.3" bigger screen than droid 4.
Additionally it has working Sailfish port so I don't understand all this wishes about not existing super open/robust/cheap/dream devices and simultaneously the complete lack of interest in this 2 devices here.

Sorry for offtop

Last night buying groceries there was a Tizen 2 for sale. Cheap

I looked at it and recognize the Tizen 2 may be useful
as a phone tether providing internet access for whatever.


As a unit to replace the n900 it fails the smell test:
the Tizen 2 looks like a mousetrap for developers.
From what I read you need certification to be able to run apps,
but maybe I am reading the wrong articles.
They seemed to have had all kinds of drama locking out
people from outside India, which indicates Samsung
has micromanagement personality issues.

All the hype around Tizen looks suspiciously like
"walled garden" territory,
but the unit does provide 4g internet hotspot
without the security issues Android seems to have.
(also recognizing this could eventually change).

The other issue is you need to have an account,
just as you need one for Ubuntu phone (or SFOS ?).
The issue of needing an account probably
puts Samsung fingers deep into your pocket,
but I suspect it merely some sort of corporate oversight.
Unless your last name is Assange or Snowden....

elros34, Photon Q has Android which is a stopper for me. I forgot to mention that I returned to n950 not only because of the device size but also because of impossibility to control the Android device.

Have you ever tried using an Android phone? It's something like this:
- you turn off automatic OS updates,
- and automatic refresh of Google Play store repository,
- and automatic updates of Google Maps,
- and automatic everything in any way related to internet connectivity,
but at the very same moment as you connect to Wi-Fi or GPRS you check the running applications list and you see:
- System update running,
- Google Play store running,
- Google Maps running,
- and also Settings and Gallery running (WTF these ones want in the internet?!)

I have used two different Android phones from different brands and it was the same situation on both devices. So no more Android in my life

Comparing mobile OSes to Linux distros, Android is like using Ubuntu - the OS owns your device, not you. Surely you can (possibly) obtain the full control over the system but you need a lot of hacking to do so. Thus I prefer Maemo/Meego which is like using Arch - much less user friendly, but you own your device, and OS requires much less hacking to get the full rights.

I don't try android on Photon because I bought it to play with sailfish.
I understand many here prefer Maemo over sailfish but AFAIK there is no single device with Maemo ported on it. You want even more: create device and put os on it. If I understand correctly neo900 have chance to run it because of similar hardware components.

" If I understand correctly neo900 have chance to run it because of similar hardware components."



What hardware components?
Exactly where is this neo900 that you saw , held and tested...
that had ANY hardware at all.. ?
The neo doesn't "have a chance" of running anything...
The neo is still working on "having a chance " to get to production and shipping?
the neo a stack of white papers.
When / If ... investors get the neo in the post ...
then people "have a chance" to run ...whatever...

until then..
talking of the neo as if it "can" and "is" doing things before even the first unit built ...
is akin to performed miracles ..
by a messiah who isn't even present to do them.