Originally Posted by juiceme

Well, it has been a slow road but we are getting there.
Lately more and more my colleagues are ditching their Windows workstations and installing Linux instead; it has been that way for a long time with developers but has recently also spread to the auxillary roles too. (managers, secretaries, maintanance crew...)

Sure the official install image is still windows but as there are also well-supplrted alternatives it is easy to try Linux instead.

Originally Posted by Dave999

Sorry, but hopefully pichlo is bizzy voting so I can step in here. Not on his behalf but as an innocent bystander. While it might happen that a few project here and there using Linux in some way I can't imagine it's a majority that goes even semi Linux. Or do you count virtual box with Linux. Linux? Or even Cygwin ?

Do you think windows lose its top position within, let's say 10 years?

Originally Posted by mscion

How much money is Microsoft making per pc with windows installed?

Hoe much money is Ubuntu/Redhat/Centos... making with every pc that it is installed on?

Originally Posted by Dave999

Sorry, but hopefully pichlo is bizzy voting so I can step in here. Not on his behalf but as an innocent bystander. While it might happen that a few project here and there using Linux in some way I can't imagine it's a majority that goes even semi Linux. Or do you count virtual box with Linux. Linux? Or even Cygwin ?

Do you think windows lose its top position within, let's say 10 years?

Originally Posted by juiceme

I cannot say how it is generally, I was just describing to how it is with us. As a strong development house swdevs make the bulk of people here, and nowdays all new products run on linux platform. (and even the legacy products are built on linux toolchain)

It is possible to use Windows as your main desktop and log on to remote systems for development and testing, but it is easier to use only one system all the way through; hence many have slipped away from Microsoft's grasp.
And the example of developers is dragging other people along; especially as the windows environment causes so many worries and glitches all the time, to where IM cannot help the people.

With Linux there is quite strong peer-help culture in the company, so when you encounter glitches they are quickly solved. In contrast when there are problems in Windows environment there is no way to solve the problems by oneself, instead you are forced to create an IM ticket which will often just get closed witout a fix...

Originally Posted by Dave999

So you are saying the one with most money after the wars is the winner?

Originally Posted by mscion

No. They just have the most money....

Maybe Microsoft can buy up Nokia with all that cash! Oops! They already tried that...

Originally Posted by Dave999

What about jolla?

Originally Posted by mscion

What would Microsoft do if it bought Jolla?

Originally Posted by Dave999

What about High Sierra. It might walk all over Linux. You know Apple. It just works. Whatever you're doing it just works