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qole: not yet. i'm scared of command line package manipulation.

also, i thought that if pidgin and pidgin bonjour support are both the same version and packaged by the same person, avahi should at least work for pidgin ... (my understanding was that you downgraded in order to make it work with the built-in client, right?)

so before i do apt-something, i'd rather be absolutely sure there's nothing wrong with my setup (=all the files in /etc/avahi, both on my desktop and on my n800). i thought i could check by installing pidgin on my laptop... if it doesn't work as expected between laptop and desktop, i'll know it's not a n800-only problem.

of course it would also be good to know if anyone got pidgin working with bonjour on their tablets without doing any additional magic on the command line.
 
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qole, on a related subject -- could you please help me narrow down what do I have to install just to get the avahi-daemon running, so that I can see my tablet from the Mac computer and address it in ssh/scp by name, not the IP address?
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As far as I understand it, the built-in client's avahi-bonjour support also uses the Pidgin libraries... It uses telepathy-salut.
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Works! Works! Works!

The error wasn't on the N800-side. It was my wireless router. I had multicast disabled on the wireless interface. Enabling it made Avahi work for the "Pidgin to Pidgin" setup between my N800 and the desktop. No downgrading, no hackery. Great! (The only thing is I need to start the Avahi daemon manually, but I'm not gonna change this as long as I'm experimenting... Each daemon not running is a good daemon )

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As far as I understand it, the built-in client's avahi-bonjour support also uses the Pidgin libraries... It uses telepathy-salut.
Mhm... Now it's getting hairy. If I understand you correctly, there's no Avahi-support in Telepathy out of the box in OS2008. The part that would add this to Telepathy is Telepathy-Salut. Telepathy-Haze might work, too (as it simply adds whatever Pidgin offers, and Pidgin can connect via Avahi). In order to get it to work, I first need to get through all the hassle described at the rtcomm-homepage (red pill, download installer,...) and then downgrade the now working Avahi-installation to a version that will be compatible with the current rtcomm-stuff.

I think I'll just leave it the way it is... Doesn't seem to be worth it. I can if I want (via Pidgin) and I'd rather not screw up my system to I point where the next SSU might fail.
Still I hope that there'll be better support out of the box in future releases of OS2008. It's just sooo cool!
 
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I'm going to have to reflash my tablet and try installing telepathy-haze and bonjour support again, because my understanding is that you don't need the rtcomm beta anymore to get these things. They should just be there, in the Nokia repositories.
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At least I don't see any Telepathy-related packages in the application manager. I try to be very conservative with repositories, mainly extras/diablo and only a few others for some apps I really don't want to miss.
 
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
I'm going to have to reflash my tablet and try installing telepathy-haze and bonjour support again, because my understanding is that you don't need the rtcomm beta anymore to get these things. They should just be there, in the Nokia repositories.
Afraid not; I had a pretty clean N800 here, so I took it through two SSUs (no problems ), enabled Diablo extras, and added the Chinook repos.

Neither of those seems to show up in the app mugger; also apt-cache search telepathy turns up no telepathy-haze or similar.
 

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I tried this on a N800 that I recently reflashed with diablo and I didn't need to downgrade avahi or use chinook repos.

What I did was install the rtcomm beta BUT, on the rtcomm website the link to the installer is (http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/r..._0.5_armel.deb). I did a quick check and the latest version is 0.7 (http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/r..._0.7_armel.deb) which has proper support for diablo.
So I installed 0.7 and I added a link local account in Account settings and ran Pidgin in Linux on my desktop and added an "Bonjour" account and I set my status to be online on the tablet and both N800 tablet with diablo with rtcomm and ubuntu computer with pidgin saw each other.
 

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Do we know why such packages don't make it into regular OS releases or at least into extras? From what you tell me, at least the telepathy-salut-support seems to be stable, at least more stable than, for example, modest when it was first included. Knowing it works but scaring users away by installation instructions that resemble exorcism is a strange strategy.
 

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