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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Why do you need to do this? Are you hyperactive? Do you think normal people like to do this every 2.603 seconds? I can tell you: they don't. They write one e-mail, and are dedicated to finish it. They, in general, don't want distractions such as "oh, my daughter just send me an IM" or "perhaps Joe is on IRC". Or at least want to keep the temptation to the minimum.
In the case of my N800, I do it because it takes long enough to load some websites that I'd rather do something else while waiting.
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@ GA, that is a design flaw in the NIT, due to low resources available. Also, if you do that, the window pops up out of nothing once it is loaded. Hopefully solved in 'N900'/Maemo 5.

Originally Posted by fragos View Post
The simpler the UI the less control the user has.
My TV has tons of buttons on it. I only use one though: the on/off button, and the remote control.

I don't even understand how the other buttons on the TV work. As far as I'm concerned they don't exist. Yet, they do, and when I accidentally touch them, I'm freaked out.

My TV also has S-Video. By default this is hidden. First of all, it collects less dust this way. Second, why show something normally not used?

This is an analogy why simplicity is sometimes better, and how a complex UI frightens a user.

BTW, if you read through the lines of this and my previous post you'll recognize the water and fire of the huge differences in usability paradigms between the 2 devices in question.
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Originally Posted by fragos View Post
With a little basic HTML you can create a page with multiple columns of links/bookmarks. Granted adding more bookmarks isn't as strait forward as what the small world icon to the right of the address bar does but you don't have the formating freedom HTML will give you.

FYI: you can also create bookmarks for files in your N8x0 that will give you visibility not available with the File Manger or Open functions of your applications. "file:///home/user" will show you the "native" Linux file names and let you see the hidden configuration files not available to the GUI.
Speeddial: Easy Access to Bookmarks via HTML
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
@ GA, that is a design flaw in the NIT, due to low resources available. Also, if you do that, the window pops up out of nothing once it is loaded. Hopefully solved in 'N900'/Maemo 5.
Design flaw that using the fastest ARM SoC at the time wasn't fast enough? Huh?

Sounds to me more like a good design that I'm even able to do other things while waiting. . . .
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
....don't put your own prejudices (against the iPhone) into a topic.....
My feelings BELONG in any thread where the Future of the Internet Tablet is deliberated, especially once worshipers of the iPhone chime in.

If the iPhone is seen as something to aspire to, the future of NiT will die.

You want to break the iPhone (as a device) apart from this discussion and steer the conversation toward features instead....go ahead....iPhone loses there as well.

You mention religion.....I laugh.....Steve Jobs has minds like yours so distorted by his dogma, it is you who is the victim of some religious blindness. Svengali....if you don't know the meaning, look it up.

I see things as they are.... I believe you see things as they compare to the iPhone (your Holy Grail).

As I said earlier in this thread, if Nokia is to learn anything from Apple, it would be to pervert it's behavior into that of thieves, liars, and hype artisans. Apple has a rich history in all of it (the thefts, the lies, the hype without substance)...and you seem to worship them. I hope Nokia does NOT allow itself to be influenced by it...or by those like you.
 

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Yes, back then it was a logic decision, perhaps even a good one, but soon thats legacy.

On the new device it'd load instantly, and its assumed the user wants to continue with that task. Therefore, full screen.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
On the new device it'd load instantly, and its assumed the user wants to continue with that task. Therefore, full screen.
Sounds like you want a different platform. I want to multitask, thanks.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
My TV has tons of buttons on it. I only use one though: the on/off button, and the remote control.

I don't even understand how the other buttons on the TV work. As far as I'm concerned they don't exist. Yet, they do, and when I accidentally touch them, I'm freaked out.
WOW-- that is messed up in my opinion. You must not be very into things technological if more buttons freak you out. You are afraid of buttons?

I bought a Canon digital camera many years ago, it had buttons all over it. It was the better user interface that all those cameras which followed with soft menus that I had to drill into to change a setting.

I HATE televisions and set top DVD players which have only one button on them (power on/off)...they suck ! I recently dumped a 32 inch Philips plasma BECAUSE of this short coming. The only reason a manufacturer removes switches is to SAVE COST not to enhance the user experience.

You sure have some strange ideas about electronic devices my friend.

Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
My TV also has S-Video. By default this is hidden. First of all, it collects less dust this way. Second, why show something normally not used?
WHAT???? Are you kidding?

Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
This is an analogy why simplicity is sometimes better, and how a complex UI frightens a user.
Wrong ! It might frighten users with low IQ. So, you propose the future of technology cater the lowest common denominator...those who are frightened if given access to the internal technology a product contains? Your proposal is that hiding things from users is a good strategy? Simple is good, regardless of how it strips away functionality? I disagree.

You definitely should NOT be involved in guiding the Future of the Internet Tablet.
 

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I use my tablet every day.
When I need it, I expect it to help me with things I have trouble with (memory mainly)

I don't like tiny buttons and desktop interfaces, but know they exist "under the hood".

I want to talk with friends (email/im/videoblogs/twitter/jaiku/irc etc)
I want to pull it out and take a photo.
I want to easily sync with my master machine.
I want to not stress about command line this that or the other.

I like being able to lie in bed and surf or xchat or compile or download or configure and whatever else I can turn it to.

I want it to be fun and relaxing.
I want it to be easy.

Most of all, I want it to be maemo.
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Usually people go back 1 page only.
Usually yes... What does this tell you?

You can't expect all people to have a hive mind. The Person wants customization. The fact that you don't remember city and street names doesn't mean that i don't remember them.
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