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2007-11-26
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
2 hours! Wouldn't happen to know my ex would ya? I couldn't possibly answer that - 2 minutes is a really long call forr me. I can say I havent noticed any horendous battgery usage on my short calls.
How's the battery life with the bluetooth headset in operation during a call? What about without it? Can a conversation go for around 2 hours before plugging in?
My phone conversations, though few, tend to go for hours on end, until I'm so physically and mentally drained that my sentences sounds like the utterances of two exhausted gorillas after intense lovin'.
}:^)~
YARR!
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2007-11-26
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#13
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4 days untill my n810 is here. cant wait to try this out!
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2007-11-26
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@ Delta Quadrant
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Thanks smammon. Kingka, I'm excited *for* you!
Does anyone know the wholesale costs (that a company would pay based on volume) of communication using the telephone network?
The lowest price I've seen (using the telephone network) is $10/mnt unlimited. That's $120/year, or roughly $100 more income per year than Magic Jack is charging. Perhaps they have adverts before calls? Perhaps they limit the number of outgoing channels.
My biggest concern is that the company is promising a model that they can't continue indefinitely. It wouldn't be the first time it's been done. GizmoProject at one point was promising free calls forever. Obviously, that was a bit of false advertising.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n Corrupt
Originally Posted by Glenn7500
I've heard about this thing, but am extremely confused. It seems a little too good to be true. How is the company making money? Surely, PC to PC calls would be free (the participants pick up the tab), however, it costs money to reserve telephone numbers (as far as I know), and it costs money to use the telephone network. Are the wholesale prices for phone communication *that* low that the company can completely swallow them?
Keep an eye on these guys, I heard they could have a few more services coming out that might get this working on the tablets. magicjack
Does anyone know the wholesale costs (that a company would pay based on volume) of communication using the telephone network?
The lowest price I've seen (using the telephone network) is $10/mnt unlimited. That's $120/year, or roughly $100 more income per year than Magic Jack is charging. Perhaps they have adverts before calls? Perhaps they limit the number of outgoing channels.
My biggest concern is that the company is promising a model that they can't continue indefinitely. It wouldn't be the first time it's been done. GizmoProject at one point was promising free calls forever. Obviously, that was a bit of false advertising.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n Corrupt
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2007-11-26
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#16
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Ah, the retro phone.. very bad for keyboards. At least when there's coffee drinking occuring while surfing.
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2008-12-05
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I know this is a VERY late reply, but...
A friend of mine demonstrated his N810 and confirmed that he regularly uses it as a to-ear handset with SIP ($50/YEAR for unlimited calling to/from Toronto numbers).
Here are some details:
- The only requirement for its operation is adjusting the speaker volume so that it's low enough for you to hear without people around you hearing and having a WiFi connection.
- He comments that thanks to the AMAZING wifi radio in the N810, he often can get a signal practically anywhere in the city, and even at low connection strengths (as low as 8%) he is able to have flawless conversations.
- He uses RTCOMM (the included SIP software) and not Gizmo, though this solution would likely work with Gizmo as well, or any VOIP software with volume control.
- The quality is amazing. He's never had a complaint, and most people believe he's on a home-phone rather than a 'mobile phone.'
- Thanks to the wonders of SIP, his SIP number rings on both his N810 and his home-phone (which is hooked up via an inexpensive SIP router). When he answers one of the phones, the others stop ringing. Thus, he needs only one number which works effectively as a home-phone number *and* a mobile number when he's on the road.
- Thanks to the multi-tasking capabilities of the tablet, he can easily convert to 'speaker phone' (ie. increase the volume), and do other things during a conversation (eg. look up information, jot notes, send emails, IM, analyze files, etc).
- Because it is SIP, he can carry out 100% free conversations to other friends or users in his organization that use SIP.
- Thanks to the inexpensiveness of SIP he has at least one additional number pointing to his N810. You can find these numbers (DIDs) for around $5/month for unlimited incoming.
- He is NOT a tech-savvy individual, so setting all of this up was relatively painless.
- Did I mention that this only costs $50/year (~$4 / month) for unlimited calling to/from numbers in Toronto?
- He describes the experience as "superior to any mobile phone he's used". In short: great quality, great price, and great flexibility. We reasoned that with WiMAX this solution would be unbeatable.
What a wonderful device the N810 is!
I just thought I'd post this message here, as it's useful information for anyone performing a search wondering if using an N810 as a mobile handset works, or how well it works. In short, it works EXTREMELY WELL.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n (SIP) Corrupt
A friend of mine demonstrated his N810 and confirmed that he regularly uses it as a to-ear handset with SIP ($50/YEAR for unlimited calling to/from Toronto numbers).
Here are some details:
- The only requirement for its operation is adjusting the speaker volume so that it's low enough for you to hear without people around you hearing and having a WiFi connection.
- He comments that thanks to the AMAZING wifi radio in the N810, he often can get a signal practically anywhere in the city, and even at low connection strengths (as low as 8%) he is able to have flawless conversations.
- He uses RTCOMM (the included SIP software) and not Gizmo, though this solution would likely work with Gizmo as well, or any VOIP software with volume control.
- The quality is amazing. He's never had a complaint, and most people believe he's on a home-phone rather than a 'mobile phone.'
- Thanks to the wonders of SIP, his SIP number rings on both his N810 and his home-phone (which is hooked up via an inexpensive SIP router). When he answers one of the phones, the others stop ringing. Thus, he needs only one number which works effectively as a home-phone number *and* a mobile number when he's on the road.
- Thanks to the multi-tasking capabilities of the tablet, he can easily convert to 'speaker phone' (ie. increase the volume), and do other things during a conversation (eg. look up information, jot notes, send emails, IM, analyze files, etc).
- Because it is SIP, he can carry out 100% free conversations to other friends or users in his organization that use SIP.
- Thanks to the inexpensiveness of SIP he has at least one additional number pointing to his N810. You can find these numbers (DIDs) for around $5/month for unlimited incoming.
- He is NOT a tech-savvy individual, so setting all of this up was relatively painless.
- Did I mention that this only costs $50/year (~$4 / month) for unlimited calling to/from numbers in Toronto?
- He describes the experience as "superior to any mobile phone he's used". In short: great quality, great price, and great flexibility. We reasoned that with WiMAX this solution would be unbeatable.
What a wonderful device the N810 is!
I just thought I'd post this message here, as it's useful information for anyone performing a search wondering if using an N810 as a mobile handset works, or how well it works. In short, it works EXTREMELY WELL.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n (SIP) Corrupt
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2008-12-05
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@ New York
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ARGH !!! Ahoy Matey !
Instead of "side talking" on the N800 / N810, use a bluetooth headset with it.
http://www.sidetalkin.com/page-1.html
If you do not own a BT headset use the hardwired ear buds which come with the Nokia for your calls, or you "could" use ordinary headphones and the internal mic of the Nokia. One problem using the internal microphone for VOIP calls is that the microphone is so sensitive it picks up all room noise and sends it through to the other party. If you are in a quiet room this is fine, but in a coffee shop, airport, train station, the ambient noise is too great, so forget about it. This applies to "side talking" too. Using the wired Nokia headset or a BTooth headset yields the best results all around.
I have 6 SIP services registered on my N800, plus Skype. Calls from all over ring into my N800, and I can place outgoing call to PSTN, and SIP numbers with ease. I do it everyday. In a pinch, I just hold the N800 in front of my face and talk. I do not side talk.
Instead of "side talking" on the N800 / N810, use a bluetooth headset with it.
http://www.sidetalkin.com/page-1.html
If you do not own a BT headset use the hardwired ear buds which come with the Nokia for your calls, or you "could" use ordinary headphones and the internal mic of the Nokia. One problem using the internal microphone for VOIP calls is that the microphone is so sensitive it picks up all room noise and sends it through to the other party. If you are in a quiet room this is fine, but in a coffee shop, airport, train station, the ambient noise is too great, so forget about it. This applies to "side talking" too. Using the wired Nokia headset or a BTooth headset yields the best results all around.
I have 6 SIP services registered on my N800, plus Skype. Calls from all over ring into my N800, and I can place outgoing call to PSTN, and SIP numbers with ease. I do it everyday. In a pinch, I just hold the N800 in front of my face and talk. I do not side talk.
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2008-12-05
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Joined on Oct 2008
@ Annapolis, MD, USA
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Originally Posted by xxM5xx
I saw we all totally rock the sidetalk!
ARGH !!! Ahoy Matey !
Instead of "side talking" on the N800 / N810, use a bluetooth headset with it.
http://www.sidetalkin.com/page-1.html
If you do not own a BT headset use the hardwired ear buds which come with the Nokia for your calls, or you "could" use ordinary headphones and the internal mic of the Nokia. One problem using the internal microphone for VOIP calls is that the microphone is so sensitive it picks up all room noise and sends it through to the other party. If you are in a quiet room this is fine, but in a coffee shop, airport, train station, the ambient noise is too great, so forget about it. This applies to "side talking" too. Using the wired Nokia headset or a BTooth headset yields the best results all around.
I have 6 SIP services registered on my N800, plus Skype. Calls from all over ring into my N800, and I can place outgoing call to PSTN, and SIP numbers with ease. I do it everyday. In a pinch, I just hold the N800 in front of my face and talk. I do not side talk.
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2008-12-05
, 17:46
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Thanks smammon. Kingka, I'm excited *for* you!
I've heard about this thing, but am extremely confused. It seems a little too good to be true. How is the company making money? Surely, PC to PC calls would be free (the participants pick up the tab), however, it costs money to reserve telephone numbers (as far as I know), and it costs money to use the telephone network. Are the wholesale prices for phone communication *that* low that the company can completely swallow them?
Does anyone know the wholesale costs (that a company would pay based on volume) of communication using the telephone network?
The lowest price I've seen (using the telephone network) is $10/mnt unlimited. That's $120/year, or roughly $100 more income per year than Magic Jack is charging. Perhaps they have adverts before calls? Perhaps they limit the number of outgoing channels.
My biggest concern is that the company is promising a model that they can't continue indefinitely. It wouldn't be the first time it's been done. GizmoProject at one point was promising free calls forever. Obviously, that was a bit of false advertising.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n Corrupt
on another site, i saw this majic jack discussed some years ago, & i see the link their site glosses over their terms of service, ha here you go #11, this is how they can keep it so cheap
"11. Advertisements
You also understand and agree that use of the magicJackTM device and Software will include advertisements and that these advertisements are necessary for the magicJackTM device to work and for the service to be free in the first year of the agreement (and subsequent licenses to be at minimal cost). Advertisements will be served through the magicPageTM Software. magicPageTM Software attempts to serve local advertisements and classifieds using a completely automated process that enables us to effectively target dynamically changing content. Our computers may analyze the phone numbers you call in order to improve the relevance of the ads. We do not provide any personal information to our advertisers or third parties. magicJack has a policy of restricting advertisers that it believes are inappropriate, but it does not guarantee the accuracy or integrity of any advertisers and does not endorse any of the advertisements that may appear in connection with use of the magicJackTM device. You also understand and agree that use of the magicJackTM device and Software may include certain communications, such as service announcements, administrative messages and newsletters, and you will not be able to opt out of receiving them."
My phone conversations, though few, tend to go for hours on end, until I'm so physically and mentally drained that my sentences sounds like the utterances of two exhausted gorillas after intense lovin'.
}:^)~
YARR!
Capt'n Corrupt