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2009-05-30 , 02:48
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Yes, this is part of a real story.

The rest of your post borders pure fantasy though, in the category of Conspiracy Theory. That's ok since being outside of the Maemo team you have no easy way to check the facts.
Quim, is there any chance you can reveal accurate sales numbers for the 770/N800/810? Nobody seems to know for certain, and there exist some arguments for XXX based on big sales, while the exact opposite arguments exist for "marketing division fail(s),*" as it was put in that post to which you referred. Besides, I am curious personally.

Thanks,

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* of course the two are not mutually exclusive.
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2009-05-30 , 02:52
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I had a paranoid friend (who ended up in Camarillo, a mental institution), who told me that the mafia had put a radio transmitter in the LSD he took and were broadcasting his thoughts and were after him.

I think that's more perfect.

No. Same level of crazy.
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
... <snip> ...most of you will be just as excited when you get the real stuff we are working on announced, explained and working in your hands.

And now I should really go to sleep.
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
No. Same level of crazy.
When you don't have arguments, try insults.
 
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2009-05-30 , 04:08
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#895
Back to the lyrics!

Tom Petty "crawling back to you"

Im so tired of being tired
Sure as night will follow day
Most things I worry about
Never happen anyway

EDIT

I like this line also from the same song

Tryin to say to me
That Im gonna be alright, if I believe in you
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
When you don't have arguments, try insults.
You mean insults like characterizing the people on the opposite side of the discussion as being mere talking-point generating drones in the mold of 1950's communist propaganda artists?
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OK, guys, take it Outside



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Originally Posted by Justjoe View Post
Quim, is there any chance you can reveal accurate sales numbers for the 770/N800/810? Nobody seems to know for certain, and there exist some arguments for XXX based on big sales, while the exact opposite arguments exist for "marketing division fail(s),*" as it was put in that post to which you referred. Besides, I am curious personally.
Sales numbers are announced by Nokia business representatives so no, we can't share that information here. But it doesn't really matter for the topic of discussion: Maemo and the Internet Tablets have sold enough to keep this team growing in terms of size and weight in the Nokia organization and strategy.

If you want to continue this discussion please do it in a different thread dedicated to it. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Sales numbers are announced by Nokia business representatives so no, we can't share that information here. But it doesn't really matter for the topic of discussion: Maemo and the Internet Tablets have sold enough to keep this team growing in terms of size and weight in the Nokia organization and strategy.

If you want to continue this discussion please do it in a different thread dedicated to it. Thanks!
I thought you were sleeping?
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This is the part I'm surprised about - that Nokia thinks they can get a stable Maemo phone this soon with seamless and hesitation free interaction between telephony functions and the rest of the device.
It's certainly a very ambitious project - just to name a few high-risk and/or relatively untested components (and I'm sure I'm forgetting several):
  • OpenGL-accelerated xorg (probably the top cause of instability on Linux machines in general)
  • UBIFS
  • Upstart
  • Completely overhauled power management
  • OHM
  • Phonet & Ofono
  • stlc45xx
  • Clutter
  • Metatracker
  • gUPnP
  • Pulseaudio
  • gst-openmax

and as you say telephony integration presents several hard challenges - eg there's a several second latency between the network and the UI in SIP/Jingle calls on the current devices, which operators would certainly find unacceptable.

Not to mention all the extra hardware, but at least the N97 is beta-testing that for us ;-)

But you know, it has to be said that they are doing things right this time. Notice that all of the above components are open source and most have been developed or at least funded by Nokia. Griping about UIs and form factors aside, Fremantle and the devices it will run on are pretty exciting stuff. It takes guts to include all that in a single iteration, and I really hope they can pull it off!
 

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