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Frank Banul	2009-09-22 , 22:31
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The USB transceiver is probably either the TWL4030 or a close relative.

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lma	2009-09-22 , 22:55
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Originally Posted by qole

No, you can't plug in a keyboard via bluetooth either.

Joking aside, it turns out that BT HID is not officially supported so some hacking will be required to make it work - apart from the bare bluetooth connection there's also all the stuff the bluetooth keyboard control panel applet does in Diablo and previous versions.

	GeneralAntilles	2009-09-22 , 22:55
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Originally Posted by Mara

Also, when I read the document it is apparent that the OMAP USB pins are not designed to be connected directly to the USB port. It needs some tranceiver chip between. I'm not sure if there are any other limitations on that tranceiver chip that prevent the host mode from working? (I don't think so, but you never know...)

The transceiver part number is in the kernel somewhere. I don't have it handy at the moment, but its sheets definitely mentioned OTG support.

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	Jack6428	2009-09-22 , 23:10
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Originally Posted by qole

No, you can't plug in a keyboard via bluetooth either.

man, this pisses me off...coz in czech we got the qwertz keyboard..and i would kill nokia for that...they switched the two navigation keys for those special symbols...i dont want that..have they asked me? no? haven't asked anyone...i want the phone, but i want to have Maemo in Czech...with an english layout...and the fact i cant connect any keyboard is just horrible... is there any way to contact Nokia HQ and rant about the qwertz layout real loud? i seriously don't want it, nor does anyone else in Europe...nokia fked this up..i want keys, not symbols

	NvyUs	2009-09-22 , 23:25
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Originally Posted by techdork

No offense, but I totally do not see what that has to do with the topic of this thread, other than an attempt at a thread hijack :s

maybe you should try reading thread then,
i was just correcting something stated on previous pages go back and quote all them too and accuse them of same stuff .
btw dont say no offence then acuse me of hijacking when thats obviously offensive.

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	JayOnThaBeat	2009-09-22 , 23:46
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Originally Posted by NvyUs

btw dont say no offence then acuse me of hijacking when thats obviously offensive.

Everyone arguing on this thread is a bunch of idiots.......

no offense

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GeraldKo	2009-09-23 , 00:09
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Originally Posted by Jack6428

Originally Posted by qole:

No, you can't plug in a keyboard via bluetooth either.

man, this pisses me off...coz in czech we got the qwertz keyboard..and i would kill nokia for that...they switched the two navigation keys for those special symbols...i dont want that..have they asked me? no? haven't asked anyone...i want the phone, but i want to have Maemo in Czech...with an english layout...and the fact i cant connect any keyboard is just horrible... is there any way to contact Nokia HQ and rant about the qwertz layout real loud? i seriously don't want it, nor does anyone else in Europe...nokia fked this up..i want keys, not symbols

@Jack6428 Assuming you aren't joking, too, I can't let you go on being upset. Qole was joking, in his Canadian way, that you can't plug in a Bluetooth keyboard. You can, however, wirelessly connect a keyboard to the N900 via Bluetooth.

(I'll do what I can to avert yet another Finnish/Czech war.)

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	thecursedfly	2009-09-23 , 01:39
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo

@Jack6428 Assuming you aren't joking, too, I can't let you go on being upset. Qole was joking, in his Canadian way, that you can't plug in a Bluetooth keyboard. You can, however, wirelessly connect a keyboard to the N900 via Bluetooth.

(I'll do what I can do avert yet another Finnish/Czech war.)

and I add that it shouldn't be too difficult to buy a N900 with the english layout (maybe online)... then you can always set the OS language to czech I guess... /OT

asys3	2009-09-23 , 07:42
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo

@Jack6428 Assuming you aren't joking, too, I can't let you go on being upset. Qole was joking, in his Canadian way, that you can't plug in a Bluetooth keyboard. You can, however, wirelessly connect a keyboard to the N900 via Bluetooth.

I hope that you can connect any BT keyboard and mouse - that would be at least necessary to use the N900 as a desktop computer replacement - that would be a "mobiel computer" - though only in the sense of sth. like a network client because of the lack of the usb host.
The N810 doesn't allow you to connect to all bt mice and keyboards (the system manager bt tool was limited).
And the command line doesn't help furteher.

Originally Posted by qole

If you don't have an N8x0, you should go and get one. They're pretty cheap right now, and they do a lot of the stuff that the N900 can do. The N800 has two full size SD slots, and a mini USB connector (as opposed to the micro USB connector), not to mention it is probably cheaper on eBay, so it might be better to use as your WiFi USB Host.

Qole. The N800 isn't the solution for the lack of the usb host in the N900!

You could also take a N800 and use a 3G phone instead in some cases.

No - I want one device! Not again a second one for usb host.

And according Wifi-Adhoc. That covers only some usb usecases. And not all.
Not to talk about the time it takes to build up a adhoc network in comparison to plugging in a usb cable...

Sorry guys.

Hope that the production version tells us if the necessary id line of the usb port is wired internally but usb host not supported officially to follow the usb consortium specs.

In this way there would be place for a hack in software and a modified cable - so everyone could find a not supported but working solution on his own.

Hope for this.

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	Jack6428	2009-09-23 , 13:07
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo

@Jack6428 Assuming you aren't joking, too, I can't let you go on being upset. Qole was joking, in his Canadian way, that you can't plug in a Bluetooth keyboard. You can, however, wirelessly connect a keyboard to the N900 via Bluetooth.

(I'll do what I can to avert yet another Finnish/Czech war.)

nope, im not joking..and i won't let it be...i want Nokia Czech to fix this and sell the phone with 4 keys... so if you can do anything to help, i will be glad...

about the BT keyboard...will nokia bother to make and sell a special one for the N900?