Am I the only one who really doesn't care where he got his device? This isn't a police state, and if someone broke their NDA to give it to him, I have better things to be morally outraged about.

The whole friggin' mine.

Yes.


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The rant does your user name proud.

But seriously, point missed.

The firmware can be flashed (heck even OTA) after the hardware is put together.

So when will you tell us which corporation which sells phones in Moscow are you working for?

I disagree (hence my earlier post about if any company really wanted to pursue a case for damages to namebrand). Customers in general aren't informed and won't look more into depth into things like this. It's kinda like the effect the media has on science. Also why I stressed that it's important to point out these things (firmware, hardware (is it a prototype, finalized?).

You wouldn't review an alpha or beta version of Ubuntu or a beta version of Windows 7 as if it was a finalized build of it. Hence also my (somewhat poor I guess) analogy earlier.

It's not as much where he got the device, as is the device official, Is it up to date? All these things are important when you do a review. For example, take an alpha version of Firefox compared to the RC of Firefox.

I know this is off topic, but do you remember that guy's user name?

OMG I couldnt read and answer so fast, but i try to do my best. Sorry if i miss someone questions

mobiledivide
I hope that OTA will work fine. But for instance go from 34-4 to 34-14 is not so easy. You could download OTA FW, but have to use PC to update due to different memory organizations. Hope it wont be an issue in future.

Bratag
I'm understand when someone dissapointed that someone else have all up-to-date toys. It happens. On my table right now - 2 robots which will be launch later this year, 3 MID, 2 phones, 1 netbook, 2 mp4 players - none of them are announced. And what? If you want to know how to get latest devices trying to be Eldar Murtazin Receipe is so simple. And i wont mention this question about device anymore, no point to discuss.

Laughing Man
N900 is mainstream in comparisson with N810, even with N97/N97 mini it wont be a mainstream. mass production of Maemo devices planned to 2011-2012 years. Before QT integration it will be just an expiriment and devices to show new OS to the market, to grew user base. That's all.

About bug reports. All devices for test have crash logger. Astonished that you guys dont know so simple things. This logs are sending to Nokia site directly. And collect by team which devoted to software part.

bugelrex


Just installed not a very long ago update which correct battery life. For me it works around 10 hours (N97 in the same condition around 11 hours)

Some digits

WiFi - 4 hours
Browsing 3G - 2.5 hours (unfortunatelly have some problems with test programm, it crashes MicroB, so not sure about that results, possibly 3 hours, radio part is optimized but depends from network configuration/country)
Video playback around 3-3/5 hours
Music player - now I didnt check it with new FW, old one around 12 hours only, it looks strange due to the same HW DAC33 like in N97 (i wait for 20 hours at least)

So normally it works for the whole day. Contacts is not very power consumption as I think (around 80 contacts with statuses)

zerojay
Please, read my review and not discuss you own thoughts which aren mine.

In review discussed problems with OS itself, not current problems of stability and I show this in some exclamation several times. So I dont see any reason to change review if it wont be changes in OS (like MMS, like other things). I could say when they will happens and thats not this year.

livefreeordie
You are w8 too much from 140 symbols in twitter.

i compare things which could be compared. Please check what Samsung do with Limo devices (Vodafone M1/H1) - contacts etc Vodafone 360.Thats only today.

Samsung have own development of Linux branch, which looking promising for now. It doesnt mean that situation will be the same even next year. Because they put a lot of efforts on some other things, OS.

Open OS isnt a key for success. You could build propriety OS and have a great success (check Apple story).

1) no way for that. Handheld device could replace in 5 years PC which we see today on market. But future PC or descktops, whatever will be different in all ways. So gap between devices will exists

2) Thats trend to make "open" platform. Dont think that it so great. But it will be some winners, some loosers. Openess is not a key for success.

3) from device to device no, from desktop sometimes but problems minor and very well described (will be checked and corrected for sure)




Ohh it takes so much time to answer

What point? That he shouldn't bash prerelease firmware? I agree about that, but I'll repeat that I thought his article was more balanced than his twitter comments.

Hey Jussi Mäkinen, I heard you're given' out n900's without NDA's could i get one?



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