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nilchak is offline nilchak
2009-10-14 , 17:38
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
I agree that currently it's not underpowered in its category, but I was talking about what steve jobs (or someone from apple) said in the past that they didn't think the platform can give good enough performance (or something to that effect). Probably because of all the hardware gfx acceleration that the osx needs.
Oh Steve Jobs said the iPhone is the competitor to netbooks (or something to that effect) - since
“We don’t know how to build a sub-$500 computer that is not a piece of junk.”
Of course once he saw netbooks selling like crazy- then he said he has some interesting ideas in the netbook category (which then turned into the iTablet rumours eventually).

Anyways, this is not about an iPhone tablet vs a Booklet argument - and even I agree the Booklet is overpriced (but we will reevaluate that when the iTablet comes out again), but it is not underpowered - which you do agree.

Actually apart from the $60 monthly plan for 2 years bondage, I would say the booklet is a attractive up-market netbook for the discerning crowd. Its not as if all manufactureres have to make products to the lowest common denominator (Apple shines in this philosophy).
 
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2009-10-14 , 18:03
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
And doesn't have a decent vendor supported OS.
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Windows 7 is not a vendor supported os?

Did i misunderstand?
 
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2009-10-14 , 18:21
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#393
Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
Oh Steve Jobs said the iPhone is the competitor to netbooks (or something to that effect) - since

Of course once he saw netbooks selling like crazy- then he said he has some interesting ideas in the netbook category (which then turned into the iTablet rumours eventually).

Anyways, this is not about an iPhone tablet vs a Booklet argument - and even I agree the Booklet is overpriced (but we will reevaluate that when the iTablet comes out again), but it is not underpowered - which you do agree.

Actually apart from the $60 monthly plan for 2 years bondage, I would say the booklet is a attractive up-market netbook for the discerning crowd. Its not as if all manufactureres have to make products to the lowest common denominator (Apple shines in this philosophy).
Good points.

As for the price, it's just that most Atom based netbooks are sub $500 and the only ones that comes to mind in booklet 3g's price range has a rather impressive feature, which is the Vaio P with its 1600x768 screen and even smaller than most netbooks (at the cost of having the trackpoint vs touchpad).

I don't know about the final street price.. but for a product that commands significantly higher price (msrp), the Booklet 3G seems (to me) that it's released near the end of the current generation of Atom and doesn't have that 'freshness' if it were released last year when the first Atoms were coming out.
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2009-10-14 , 18:22
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Originally Posted by matthewcc View Post
Windows 7 is not a vendor supported os?

Did i misunderstand?
He said decent .

Seriously from a personal perspective, Windows 7 is pretty good - better than Vista obviously.
 
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2009-10-14 , 19:44
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
better than Vista obviously.
That's a pretty low bar to set for a comparison, though.

And, yes, Windows 7 doesn't meet my criteria for "decent".

I'm not going to use a Windows product, and I want the product I use/depend-on to be fully vendor supported. So, I wont be buying a netbook that only comes with Windows, so that I can then install Ubuntu on it. That's a "no sale" for me. It either comes with Ubuntu/Maemo/OSX/Android/(maybe another linux dist.), or I don't buy it.
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2009-10-14 , 19:50
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Interesting requirement, @johnkzin.

I've got the Asus 1000HE EeePC (LOVE it, btw) and I've tried UNR, EasyPeasy, Jolicloud, and one more I don't remember, and I've found that Win7 is superior to all three of those in several areas.

For one, the WiFi on the 1000HE doesn't work as well in Ubuntu (which all three of those are flavors of) as it does in Win7. Also, the overall system speed in UNR is not up to par with Win7, specifically when you start multitasking.

I also noticed that the battery drain under Linux was much greater than under Win7.

These are *my* experiences with a specific machine (1000HE), so yours may vary.
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2009-10-14 , 19:55
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I tried the Windows 7 preview.

Not impressed. It may be more stable than Vista, but to me the UI is just as awkward. XP is elegant compared to it. IMO. YMMV.
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2009-10-14 , 21:28
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Originally Posted by rcadden View Post
Interesting requirement, @johnkzin.

I've got the Asus 1000HE EeePC
Dell Mini-9 (well, the Vostro version of it) with Dellbuntu 8.04.(something). I switched it away from using the Dell version of UNR to using the vanilla Ubuntu desktop.

No issues. No problems. No complaints. Love it (as a clamshell netbook, but what I want is a tablet or convertible-tablet).
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2009-10-14 , 22:37
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Dell Mini-9 (well, the Vostro version of it) with Dellbuntu 8.04.(something). I switched it away from using the Dell version of UNR to using the vanilla Ubuntu desktop.

No issues. No problems. No complaints. Love it (as a clamshell netbook, but what I want is a tablet or convertible-tablet).
I had the Mini 9 (tried Win7, OS X, and various flavors of Linux) but just couldn't deal with the keyboard.
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2009-10-14 , 23:58
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[QUOTE=johnkzin;346590]That's a pretty low bar to set for a comparison, though./QUOTE]

Actually it also runs better than Ubuntu for me - in terms of speed. I reinstalled Win 7 over Ubuntu on my laptop and Win 7 over Vista on my Media computer. So far I am not dissapointed in Win 7.
 
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