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2009-10-15 , 00:24
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
That's a pretty low bar to set for a comparison, though./QUOTE]

Actually it also runs better than Ubuntu for me - in terms of speed. I reinstalled Win 7 over Ubuntu on my laptop and Win 7 over Vista on my Media computer. So far I am not dissapointed in Win 7.
That's good to hear...

I'm pro'ly going to pick up the 3G Booklet... I spend 90% of my time in the field, away from a desktop. I need something I can use that is robust, connects to company intra-nets out of the box, and I don't have to race the battery clock every time I use it or have to carry a power cord plus a DC inverter around with me as well.

Besides, xmob's work with Win 7 sideshow might just turn the car mounted N810 that I rely on, into a useful companion for the dang thing.
 
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
That's a pretty low bar to set for a comparison, though.
Actually it also runs better than Ubuntu for me - in terms of speed.
Speed isn't a big factor for me. I wouldn't be talking about a netbook if it was. My dell mini 9 is already plenty fast for me.

An OS that I can depend on, that has proper internal design, that scales well, utilizes standards instead of perverting them, that works the way I think it ought to work without getting in my way, and that isn't owned by a rapacious vendor. Those are much bigger factors.

I get some of that (but not all of it) with Ubuntu. I get some (different pieces) of that with OS X. I get _none_ of that with Windows.

(and, it's not a linux high ... OS X isn't even linux based, it's unix based -- that would be the operative concern, but I wouldn't call "having standards" being on a platform "high")
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
Speed isn't a big factor for me. I wouldn't be talking about a netbook if it was. My dell mini 9 is already plenty fast for me.

An OS that I can depend on, that has proper internal design, that scales well, utilizes standards instead of perverting them, that works the way I think it ought to work without getting in my way, and that isn't owned by a rapacious vendor. Those are much bigger factors.
To each his own. For myself, my UMPC runs a 1.6GHz Via and going from Vista to Win7 was a revelation. If you turn off the eye candy, it operates fast enough that you don't notice it which is my make or break speed test. I haven't run Ubuntu but I have tried Puppy Linux and it was also fast enough that I didn't notice it.

For me, the bigger factor is software. There are things I need to do that I can do with Windows software but I cannot do with Linux software. I admit the gap is shrinking but it still exists. Perhaps the number of netbooks running Linux will push more commercial developers into the Linux arena.
 
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
For me, the bigger factor is software. There are things I need to do that I can do with Windows software but I cannot do with Linux software. I admit the gap is shrinking but it still exists. Perhaps the number of netbooks running Linux will push more commercial developers into the Linux arena.
That's it for me, too. Photoshop (I hate GiMP), video editing, etc.
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That's it for me, too. Photoshop (I hate GiMP), video editing, etc.
Opposite for me. I like Gimp and I hate Photoshop.

I really dislike the way software has to be acquired and maintained in Windows. And there are so many barrierrs to doing things. I didn't realize it until I removed myself from that system for long enough to get used to a different way.

I love the repository approach of the major Linux distros because it is like having an app store (get almost anything and everything in a consistent way from one friendly place) where everything I need is free.
 
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
For me, the bigger factor is software. There are things I need to do that I can do with Windows software but I cannot do with Linux software. I admit the gap is shrinking but it still exists. Perhaps the number of netbooks running Linux will push more commercial developers into the Linux arena.
I agree that the biggest factor is software. For what I need my immediate hands-on-system (whether it's a desktop, laptop, netbook, or even pocketable) to do, the software selection just isn't a big deal. Web and/or email client, ssh, IM client, PDF viewer, (open|ms) Office, VNC viewer, ... that pretty much covers 95% of it. If that was the only consideration, I could use ANY platform and not care. The meat of what I do involves ssh and VNC to connect to servers, and I can use any Linux, *BSD, OS X, or even Windows as a thin client for doing all of that. In that environment, the immediate hands-on-system is just a gateway to other things.

And for that other 5% of things I do ... none of it requires Windows. In fact, it's mostly terminal level stuff, and the Windows terminal environment (even with cygwin installed) pretty much sucks a*s. Plus, there's the constant threat of viruses/malware/trojans/etc. (and even though there are threats against linux/bsd/osx unix platforms, the number of threats, and impacts of most threats, are pretty minimal and easy to contain), poor system software design, etc.

And ... if 95% of what I do is platform agnostic, why use an expensive one for those things? Certainly, OS X is weakest here, but it makes up for it by being the most polished and usable platform. Windows both raises the cost of the platform, and has poor ergonomics. Linux, even Ubuntu, may not have the greatest ergonomics, but it's _free_.


(and, that's part of why I would so very much like to see Maemo on a netbook -- best ergonomics/usability of any linux platform I've used; Ubuntu being a modest 2nd, and every other linux environments I've used being very VERY far behind those two)
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Have you guys seen this hands-on preview?

http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2009/10/...t-3g-hands-on/

My apologies if it's been posted before.
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Have you guys seen this hands-on preview?

http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2009/10/...t-3g-hands-on/

My apologies if it's been posted before.
Thanks

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That^ might make me want to wait and see.
 
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I'm pro'ly going to pick up the 3G Booklet... I spend 90% of my time in the field, away from a desktop. I need something I can use that is robust, connects to company intra-nets out of the box, and I don't have to race the battery clock every time I use it or have to carry a power cord plus a DC inverter around with me as well.
WSJ reports 10 hours on batteries. I believe that is the best battery time for a netbook with 1280 x 720 display.
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WSJ reports 10 hours on batteries. I believe that is the best battery time for a netbook with 1280 x 720 display.
I don't think screen resolution has much to do with the batterylife, but anyway 10 hours is really good!
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