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2009-11-01 , 08:41
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#31
This forum has been a SUPERB showcase of superstition, faith and mysticism in past few weeks.

People have generated chatters among themselves to fabricate new ideas, creating buzz and frenzy among themselves to heighten their own faith of it and scorning 'the gods above' when they realize their self made beliefs did not pan out as the prophecies they've made themselves.

Please go on
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2009-11-01 , 14:50
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#32
I didn't think that simply to ASK confirm about some voices (just to prove its true or not!!) is "a SUPERB showcase of superstition, faith and mysticism in past few weeks. "
These voices are possible: Stantum is partnership with Nokia as display productor, Stantum produces new revolutionary resistive technological displays, sometimes not all hw is present on technical sheet of devices.
For someone (like me) it's important to know what kind of display is present on N900, so...where is your problem?
We don't talking about flying green pinky-dot donkeys...
So ysss, please, reply to my answer if you can, otherwise don't go OT!
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2009-11-01 , 14:51
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#33
Stantum will display at the Symbian Exchange and Exposition
http://www.stantum.com/en/medias/latest-news?id=41

http://www.see2009.org/
Why doesn't someone ask them if there are any phones coming out with their touchscreen.
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2009-11-01 , 14:59
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#34
maybe send a mail to nokia asking about multitouch in n900 to get some answers
 
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2009-11-01 , 15:08
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#35
There's NO stantum display.

Why do you think there might be one?

Hope the N900 + 1 has one, which I already doubt.
 
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2009-11-01 , 15:10
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#36
Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
There's NO stantum display.

Why do you think there might be one?

Hope the N900 + 1 has one, which I already doubt.
Why wouldn't it?
 
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2009-11-02 , 05:00
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Originally Posted by MrGrim View Post
I guess it's true nokia did leave some features in the dark in the past. It's a weird decision i don't understand. It's exactly the opposite of the flashy iphone promotion crusade, and maybe it's part of the reason nokia is not the maker of the phone everyone compares/benchmarks against.
Anyways, resistive multi-touch is not just some regular spec, which might as well not be there, such as fm radio. It's HUGE! It's something utterly new, which may have the opportunity to turn capacitive screens intro obsolete trash. Think about it, if you were a nokia big-wig, what would you have the developer drones do: facebook app or something innovative with the potential to make the device stand out even more?
Don't get me wrong, i do hope it has this easter egg inside and we get a nice impressive present somewhere down the road. It's just that i've seen so many pieces of crap ultra-hyped into shining, it's hard for me to believe they'd leave such a gem in the mud (damn, i'm poetical!)
Does anyone remember the accelerometer in the n95?
Nokia: Hey, check out our new phone! It does all this cool stuff...
Apple: ...well, I can totally rotate my screen when you turn me. Amazing!
Nokia: ...oh wait, so can we. ENABLE! (...eventually...)

Perhaps (not wanting to fan the flames of mysticism) a good ol' teardown is in order?

P.s, at SEE (see AAS's walkaround vid) the Stantum rep held up a touchscreen that was being used by 'one of its partners' - and the thing looked a lot like a production model to me. If anyone can get a close enough look at it, perhaps it could be used for reference?
 
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2009-11-02 , 06:35
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#38
There is no multitouch for the N900. (This shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody.)

For Stantum, I'm sure it is very fine technology, but there is a big difference between having working evaluation kits for your technology and between being able to deliver millions of touch panels in a low-total-cost package to some company. Do you know of any mass-volume product right now that would be using their display technology?
 

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2009-11-02 , 13:50
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Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
There is no multitouch for the N900. (This shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody.)

For Stantum, I'm sure it is very fine technology, but there is a big difference between having working evaluation kits for your technology and between being able to deliver millions of touch panels in a low-total-cost package to some company. Do you know of any mass-volume product right now that would be using their display technology?
quick preface - I'm inclined to agree with you that there will not be multitouch for the N900, but I'd like to see the idea definitively debunked, through a teardown of the HW (call me a sceptic of sceptics, if you like). It's important to remember that Stantum's displays do not require some revolutionary new form of resistive tech - but simply the same old resistive screen produced to a certain standard - and they have been speaking to touchpanel manufacturers now for a while who "are ready" to produce the panels (see 1:11 and 2:11 ff here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3X5y-ajtc&fmt=18)

Further, Stantum at SEE demonstrated an implementation of their tech by a licencee (sorry I have rewatched the vid now to refresh on the terminology) in a panel that looked like a production panel, before going on to demonstrate an evaluation kit. see from 6:40 here: (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...m_SEE_2009.php - also, check the size of the thing in his hand...)

While I would not be surprised to see that there is no multitouch for the n900, I also think that there are a few facts that seem to line up nicely, and it is a cool thought to have. Nokia has put cool HW features to use only with significantly later firmware revisions, so the lack of implementation in Maemo5 of Multitouch in my mind isn't a 100% killer of this idea (maybe like 95%). Further, isn't that just the linux way??
(cf xkcd: http://xkcd.com/644/)

Anyway - what else are we supposed to do while we wait for the device? talk about it *without* superstition, faith and mysticism?? pfft, that's BORING..
 
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2009-11-02 , 13:54
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Originally Posted by GunnerzMate View Post
Why wouldn't it?
Well, don't you have to _pay_ a hefty sum to Stantum in royalties to use it? This is not something stupid like an accelerometer, or an FM Radio, than you can just buy at your local shop. This is some company's "most recent" IP.
 
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