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2009-11-08 , 19:50
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Yeah, no it certainly does! And now I'm kinda torn between that, and O2's similar simplicity deal, with (apparently) the 2gb limit, as opposed to T-Mobile's 1gb.

Not too fussed about the texts'.
 
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2009-11-08 , 20:02
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Yeah, no it certainly does! And now I'm kinda torn between that, and O2's similar simplicity deal, with (apparently) the 2gb limit, as opposed to T-Mobile's 1gb.

Not too fussed about the texts'.
If it's any help, o2 in their terms and conditions is 1Gb/mo and will charge you extra if you go over the limit, where t-mobile will not. Although I can't say if o2 are strict on this.

As far as im aware T-Mobile 3G coverage is superior the o2's aswell.

Although if you have been with o2 awhile thats fair enough.
 

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2009-11-08 , 20:26
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The O2 terms and conditions say they will contact you first, and I haven't found where it says 1GB (although it is probably 1 not 2GB)

If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission, remove O2 Mobile Broadband or Wi-Fi from your account or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.
http://www.o2.co.uk/termsandconditions/broadband

T-mobile don't have 3G coverage where I live, but 3 and O2 do. If the 3 sim card issue isn't fixed I'll probably go with O2 simplicity until it is. 3 is very attractive if the 3 skype client becomes available for the n900, as you will then be able to use skype completly free and unlimited.
 
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2009-11-08 , 21:13
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Yeah, no it certainly does! And now I'm kinda torn between that, and O2's similar simplicity deal, with (apparently) the 2gb limit, as opposed to T-Mobile's 1gb.
Think about it - are you *really* going to use that much of allowance each month?
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2009-11-08 , 22:00
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Guys, "pre-order" prices mean nothing in the UK. They contact you when the device is actually available, and quote you the current price which you can then choose to accept or reject.
The Nokia Shop says if the price is lower between the time you pre-order and when it is shipped, they will charge you the lower price.

On the other hand, the terms and conditions also allow them to change their mind about an order placed through the site, in case they accidentally gave the wrong price. They seem to have applied that when correcting some pre-orders that were made with multiple discount codes (in fact making it a better deal for the customer), and dishonoured cashback referral agreements in the process (not so good).
 
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2009-11-08 , 22:14
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Think about it - are you *really* going to use that much of allowance each month?
Oh of course. You can hardly fit a couple of movies into 1GB, let alone follow a weekly hour-long TV show, keep on top of those Debian updates, and upload every photo and video you take to the net :-)

Seriously, I've only gone over my 1GB/mo allowance on a regular phone once, when I was downloading an Ubuntu CD over it to a laptop, over night.

But that was in the days where phones didn't have 32GB storage themselves, and didn't have (semi) HD video, and you didn't send texts as casually as you do with IMs (due to price), and IMs didn't include video.

Even just the keepalive messages (pings) for each online connection in the IM client may add up to >100MB per month, if you have several accounts with different providers.
 

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2009-11-08 , 22:15
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Originally Posted by JBax View Post
True but then you have the flexibility to upgrade when you want (ie before 2 years) and get a great price back for it on ebay
Still, the £35 (+£53 for N900) and £40 (+£20~) pm 12 month contracts on MPD worked out at a better deal. The first got you everything for £450. Unless you were lucky enough to get the N900 for £300 thanks to Nokia's loopwhole, sim free deals can't match this for value/service.

Regarding using so much data, I find myself using anywhere between 500MB and 2GB a month using just my G1. You could easily use 100MB in 10/20 minutes of browsing Newgrounds, Youtube, or if it works the IPlayer. With Tethering this obviously can get even higher!
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2009-11-08 , 22:47
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^^.. Ditto.

Granted, that may not be the case for the average 3G user, but it's certainly the case for me, and others.
 
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2009-11-09 , 00:04
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Originally Posted by 406NotAcceptable View Post
Still, the £35 (+£53 for N900) and £40 (+£20~) pm 12 month contracts on MPD worked out at a better deal. The first got you everything for £450. Unless you were lucky enough to get the N900 for £300 thanks to Nokia's loopwhole, sim free deals can't match this for value/service.

Regarding using so much data, I find myself using anywhere between 500MB and 2GB a month using just my G1. You could easily use 100MB in 10/20 minutes of browsing Newgrounds, Youtube, or if it works the IPlayer. With Tethering this obviously can get even higher!
Sure you save some in the financial sense going that route but I was talking about complete flexibility. Which subjectively has differing amounts of value assigned to it from person to person, which can be more or less than the money saved.
 
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2009-11-09 , 00:51
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Think about it - are you *really* going to use that much of allowance each month?
I think one of the big factors is how much you can use other connections. I confidently expect to shift several GB/month in and out of the N900, but at home it'll be on WiFi, at work it'll be on WiFi, and an awful lot of cafes and even some of the buses round here have WiFi.

I think that the amount of time that I'm reliant on 3G and still needing to move a serious amount of data will be minimal, but I can certainly see the high usage contracts being helpful for people that spend more time away from fixed locations with usable networks.
 

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