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Originally Posted by gerbick
It was resolved to do it exactly the way they are doing it wasn't it?
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Originally Posted by code177
Depending on your line of work, it may well be cheap. Not so much if you're a tree trimmer or you hang steel girders, but for most trades it's not too bad. Call an independent business insurance agent. They can probably get back to you with a quote in under an hour.
This applies to all N900 app developers. I can't imagine that a million dollars of general liability insurance is cheap.
It's an absolutely ridiculous requirement, though!
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by gerbick
The same reason lots of other things aren't resolved on it.
I still don't get why/how this wasn't resolved before actually shipping the device.
(Like 3 USIMs working, Nokia native FM receiver, and portrait mode browsing, for example).
Because if they waited until their Ovi department had everything ready, we'd be complaining even louder at how long it's taking to ship the devices!
Never underestimate just how long it takes to sort out something like Maemo-friendly Ovi, with all it's commercial and legal aspects, and massive cultural differences (i.e. inertia) from non-Maemo-friendly Ovi. Probably most of the people working on Ovi (by which I mean non-techies, mainly), still don't have a clue about open source, and there's just a few people trying to spread the point.
Apple made it look like setting up an app store was easy, but they were planning it for years in advance. You just didn't see it happen out in the open.
Whereas the N900, Maemo 5 open source thing gives a great impression of being rather a surprise to Nokia as a whole.
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2009-11-20
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I'm not sure they have actually shipped a device yet. 
But in any case, it won't be resolved before they actually do. I hope?
But in any case, it won't be resolved before they actually do. I hope?
Originally Posted by gerbick
Frank
I still don't get why/how this wasn't resolved before actually shipping the device.
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2009-11-20
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I'm disappointed to see what code177 has discovered, and I'm still in favor of finding a creative solution, but Quim is right: there's only so much we can do here. Ovi is the policy setter, and Forum Nokia is surely a better place to drive policy change. That said, I do think it's useful to collect ideas here (and vent as well 
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by Texrat
You all know there's nobody actually at forum nokia, right? The Publishing to Ovi forum is quieter than most door mice. I've asked plenty of questions over there and nobody has ever replied.
I'm disappointed to see what code177 has discovered, and I'm still in favor of finding a creative solution, but Quim is right: there's only so much we can do here. Ovi is the policy setter, and Forum Nokia is surely a better place to drive policy change. That said, I do think it's useful to collect ideas here (and vent as well
In my experience, at least, talking to Ovi Forum Nokia is more or less the same as talking to a wall.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by code177
Well... yeah. There is that.
You all know there's nobody actually at forum nokia, right? The Publishing to Ovi forum is quieter than most door mice. I've asked plenty of questions over there and nobody has ever replied.
In my experience, at least, talking to Ovi Forum Nokia is more or less the same as talking to a wall.
I forgot to insert the word "theoretically".
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Originally Posted by jjx
I fail to see the reason.
The same reason lots of other things aren't resolved on it.
(Like 3 USIMs working, Nokia native FM receiver, and portrait mode browsing, for example).
Because if they waited until their Ovi department had everything ready, we'd be complaining even louder at how long it's taking to ship the devices!
Never underestimate just how long it takes to sort out something like Maemo-friendly Ovi, with all it's commercial and legal aspects, and massive cultural differences (i.e. inertia) from non-Maemo-friendly Ovi. Probably most of the people working on Ovi (by which I mean non-techies, mainly), still don't have a clue about open source, and there's just a few people trying to spread the point.
And if the people in Ovi have no clue as to opensource, then they should have been educated some 3+ years ago with the advent of the 770.
Apple made it look like setting up an app store was easy, but they were planning it for years in advance. You just didn't see it happen out in the open.
Apple had years, right? So did Nokia. Reminder: step 4 out of 5.
Whereas the N900, Maemo 5 open source thing gives a great impression of being rather a surprise to Nokia as a whole.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by gerbick
In my jurisdiction, the total cost is more like $500.
Never underestimate how bad this looks to a complete outsider. To have no way for a non-company entity to sell an application without a $1k+ investment before they write one line of code is a bit much.
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