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[QUOTE=freppas;406611]Well seeing as this is the forum for the people who wrote a lot of the software for the N900 I wouldn't be surprised if they sometimes react strongly to someone saying the product is ****.

It's all about the tone of the conversation, I think everyone understands that you can get very mad when you spend lots of money on something that doesn't work like you expected it. But also, going to the people who made it, saying that it sucks and you don't want it anymore and then expecting a slew of understanding condolences might be a tad optimistic.

How about we look at this a bit more positively. Apparently there are issues with the bluetooth functionality. Has anyone created a bug report for this?

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Good point . . .not many commercial organisations would allow end users direct access to 4th line support! not a very clever move as they speak a different language!!

n900 was built by techies for techies . . . even this web site was clearly designed by a certain community for a certain community and is not my idea of and end user site! nokia have obviously made a commercial descision to do this and will definately live or die by it!

1 thing is for sure people will either love or hate the 900. not many will be in between!

not sure how long the fins can take the noise!

dont blame people for thinking the n900 is a phone and that nokia is a phone manufacturer! its an easy mistake to make in my opinion!
 

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Originally Posted by CharlesM View Post
Good point . . .not many commercial organisations would allow end users direct access to 4th line support! not a very clever move as they speak a different language!!

n900 was built by techies for techies . . . even this web site was clearly designed by a certain community for a certain community and is not my idea of and end user site! nokia have obviously made a commercial descision to do this and will definately live or die by it!

1 thing is for sure people will either love or hate the 900. not many will be in between!

not sure how long the fins can take the noise!

dont blame people for thinking the n900 is a phone and that nokia is a phone manufacturer! its an easy mistake to make in my opinion!
Right, but then the iPhone should be assumed to be a computer no?

I'm sure the idea has been floated already but how about a users forum for the simpler question?
 

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Originally Posted by Diavoli View Post
This community is just becoming a place to vent their complaints, what has happened to the community. I bet it wasn't like this with just the first internet tablet users using it.
I'm curious about this N900 forum, after searching for a while this was the only real forum I found. Is this just a forum for linux/maemo developers, and is there a better forum for general users of the phone? I just want to share general information and experiences about using the phone (which means I want to hear about people venting complaints).
 

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Originally Posted by revamped View Post
I'm curious about this N900 forum, after searching for a while this was the only real forum I found. Is this just a forum for linux/maemo developers, and is there a better forum for general users of the phone? I just want to share general information and experiences about using the phone (which means I want to hear about people venting complaints).
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Originally Posted by freppas View Post
Right, but then the iPhone should be assumed to be a computer no?

I'm sure the idea has been floated already but how about a users forum for the simpler question?
freppas, even though you speak 'tongue in cheek' I think you are really onto something and are very right!

Most people that I know that use the iPhone were not traditional smartphone users before! They carried around a phone, an iPod and a seperate cam!

Some were big on mac and moved onto iphone!

typicall nokia lovers transition to n900 from . . . n95/other smartphone maybe or other lower device! and a % from internet tablet community!

despite what the manufacturer or community say the device should be used for . . . 'perception is reality'

if i go to my local nokia website and list 'all phones' . . . tada the n900 is listed . . .

indeed n900 is a "Phone Model Number"

interestingly mini laptops are not listed as phones and do not have a "Phone Model Number"

Now we go to the apple web site and equally see the iphone listed under the mac tab

obviously im only joking no apple clearly clearly say what is a phone and what is a computer!

damn it the thing is called iPhone while they have (like sony did with walkman and hoover did with vacuum cleaners) succesfully come up with their own adjective for a personal computer!

for me the real shame here (and its totally redeemable) is the n900 is a great bit of tech and the concept of a open linux based os is amazing! I love nokia to pieces but have to admit they are playing catch up here on many fronts.

a few years ago the sony walkman was ubiquitous. and despite the size and power of sony the apple ipod came and found the company resting on its laurels. . . . they have never recovered since!

while no direct comparison can be made i hope we are not seeing the same thing here with nokia as both google and apple have raised the game exponentially!

personally i do not see apple as nokia's biggest long term worry but google and android!

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Originally Posted by vasputin View Post
A phone should work as a phone first, dont care about multiple desktops if i cant hear when someone is calling me
Then you shoulndt buy a device that is not being called a phone, but a mobile computer
 

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Originally Posted by CharlesM View Post
freppas, even though you speak 'tongue in cheek' I think you are really onto something and are very right!

Most people that I know that use the iPhone were not traditional smartphone users before! They carried around a phone, an iPod and a seperate cam!

Some were big on mac and moved onto iphone!

typicall nokia lovers transition to n900 from . . . n95/other smartphone maybe or other lower device! and a % from internet tablet community!

despite what the manufacturer or community say the device should be used for . . . 'perception is reality'

if i go to my local nokia website and list 'all phones' . . . tada the n900 is listed . . .

indeed n900 is a "Phone Model Number"

interestingly mini laptops are not listed as phones and do not have a "Phone Model Number"

Now we go to the apple web site and equally see the iphone listed under the mac tab

obviously im only joking no apple clearly clearly say what is a phone and what is a computer!

damn it the thing is called iPhone while they have (like sony did with walkman and hoover did with vacuum cleaners) succesfully come up with their own adjective for a personal computer!

for me the real shame here (and its totally redeemable) is the n900 is a great bit of tech and the concept of a open linux based os is amazing! I love nokia to pieces but have to admit they are playing catch up here on many fronts.

a few years ago the sony walkman was ubiquitous. and despite the size and power of sony the apple ipod came and found the company resting on its laurels. . . . they have never recovered since!

while no direct comparison can be made i hope we are not seeing the same thing here with nokia as both google and apple have raised the game exponentially!

personally i do not see apple as nokia's biggest long term worry but google and android!

I sincerely cant understand why you don't understand that Maemo and the N900 doesn't target the same audience as Android and the iPhone. While the two latter are (smart)phones, the N900 is truly a computer in a mobile phone format and provides the ultimate linux experience in such a device. People who are totally satisfied with their iPhones will probably not be very satisfied with the N900, as it has a completely different focus.
 

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Originally Posted by Untouchab1e View Post
I sincerely cant understand why you don't understand that Maemo and the N900 doesn't target the same audience as Android and the iPhone. While the two latter are (smart)phones, the N900 is truly a computer in a mobile phone format and provides the ultimate linux experience in such a device. .

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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Maybe the signal-to-noise ratio here would improve if we just go ahead and create an "N900 sucks" subforum...

Maybe it also would if the fanboys (of which I am one since yesterday) would stop behaving as if Nokia also needs a Church of Steve.

Okay, and maybe it also would help if the people who don't like the phone would try to be constructive about that. The bluetooth behaviour looks like a bug to me - and pulseaudio should be able to divert call sounds to the speakers, too.

It would be nice if the original poster would file a bug about that behaviour instead of just venting here.
 

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It just bothers me when people start their own topics to tell how much they hate their N900 because of the lack of portrait mode and MMS when the slightest readup on the N900 would reveal that before they spent 600$ on it..
 

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