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	ossipena	2010-02-17 , 06:08
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so you have 100 000 apps. does it make things better? I'd say that it doesn't. jabber&msn&skype integrated to os is imo worth 50k apps and xterm is worth 60k apps for me...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...downloads.html

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craftyguy	2010-02-17 , 06:13
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Originally Posted by ossipena

so you have 100 000 apps. does it make things better? I'd say that it doesn't. jabber&msn&skype integrated to os is imo worth 50k apps and xterm is worth 60k apps for me...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...downloads.html

I totally agree with this. Quality matters far more than quantity. At least 90% of the apps in the Apple App Store are rubbish.

I agree with the OP in the respect that Nokia should encourage developers more (by offering a more stable roadmap for device/OS than N900/mae..err.. meego,etc), but I would hope that it never becomes as bloated as the App Store.

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	Texrat	2010-02-17 , 06:15
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Originally Posted by mcdull

Until there are many Maemo devices are sold, not many companies will invest in developing software for this platform, other than Nokia itself, but Nokia has its own larger share of Symbian phones they have to commmit to.

Chickens and eggs.

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	mrebanza	2010-02-17 , 06:19
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Originally Posted by webmok

Nokia is the worlds number 1 seller of mobilephones around the globe - or intend to be at least..

Apple has been dominating the market of Apps for the past 2 years now, and Nokia hasn't been doing anything.

That is until Maemo was released, together will my nicely Nokia N900

- But I guess Nokias own developers are reading these posts, otherwise they're just stupod. This just isn't ambitious enough.

There's like - what? 165 apps at the moment? How can that compare to Apples thousands of apps? Answer: it can't.

So unless Nokia wants to loose anymore shares to Apple (and this is happening as we speak), then Nokia needs to hire some developers, do a money-for-apps-program or whatever. Cause this just isn't ambitious enough!

I'd like to hear other peoples reaction to this. No flames, thank you.

Google had a $10,000 or ($100,000?) contest to the best App to be developed for Android a while back when it was first released.

I remember reading about it but idk who won, anyway, that's a good way Nokia could get the ball rolling on Maemo Apps!

Then again idk wtf their are actually doing with all the focus on Symbian and QT and trying to push developers towards writing QT Apps that will supposively run on both OS.

I disagree with allot of people here, I think the more apps the better, sure you might have an app that does everything YOU need but their is always something someone else needs or you may need in the future and it is nice to know that their is (don't curse at me for saying this) "An APP for that"

Then again I really wish Nokia would just let Symbian rest in peace and focus thier energy on the Maemo OS . . . (or meegoo, or whatever the f%#k they are calling it)

A touchscreen linux based OS like Maemo could really be the future of commuting . . . . screw an ipad . . . I nice BIG maemo tablet would be awesome . . . . or ever a bigscreen HDTV with a resistive touch screen and Maemo OS running inside.

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	ossipena	2010-02-17 , 06:23
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Originally Posted by mrebanza

Then again I really wish Nokia would just let Symbian rest in peace and focus thier energy on the Maemo OS . . . (or meegoo, or whatever the f%#k they are calling it)

why? symbian is clearly superior when we aren't talking about best-of-the-best-available hardware.....

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colnago	2010-02-17 , 06:26
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Originally Posted by Texrat

Chickens and eggs.

Be a leader or follower.

I really don't see many apps coming to "Maemo 5" for the previously stated reasons...not many devices on a given platform, not much incentive to develop. i0hone had marketing, and decent first year numbers to spur dev...I don't see that w/the 900, at least not in the states, given marketing exposure and distribution channels. It may change w/the next gen. All I know is that I'll be picking up the next device/platform that supports sling...withdrawl is a b1tch!

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	mrebanza	2010-02-17 , 06:32
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Originally Posted by ossipena

why? symbian is clearly superior when we aren't talking about best-of-the-best-available hardware.....

How is it superior ???

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colnago	2010-02-17 , 06:37
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Originally Posted by mrebanza

Google had a $10,000 or ($100,000?) contest to the best App to be developed for Android a while back when it was first released.

I remember reading about it but idk who won, anyway, that's a good way Nokia could get the ball rolling on Maemo Apps!

Then again idk wtf their are actually doing with all the focus on Symbian and QT and trying to push developers towards writing QT Apps that will supposively run on both OS.

I disagree with allot of people here, I think the more apps the better, sure you might have an app that does everything YOU need but their is always something someone else needs or you may need in the future and it is nice to know that their is (don't curse at me for saying this) "An APP for that"

Then again I really wish Nokia would just let Symbian rest in peace and focus thier energy on the Maemo OS . . . (or meegoo, or whatever the f%#k they are calling it)

Didn't Nokia just have/has a "hacking" and/or "dev" contest(s)?

I don't think that most of the posts disagreeing with the OP are saying that "there shouldn't be apps", so much as "apps will come once more 900s/9XXs are sold, on a 'less evolving' platform, and will mainly be coming from 3rd party entities, as with most all platforms...but no fart apps allowed."

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	somedude	2010-02-17 , 06:43
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Originally Posted by mrebanza

Google had a $10,000 or ($100,000?) contest to the best App to be developed for Android a while back when it was first released.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=525438&postcount=5

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slender	2010-02-17 , 06:43
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Originally Posted by ossipena

so you have 100 000 apps. does it make things better? I'd say that it doesn't. jabber&msn&skype integrated to os is imo worth 50k apps and xterm is worth 60k apps for me...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...downloads.html

Quite many people here defend that how important device is to them. It´s natural but try to see beyond that. Beyond your own needs NOW. How you think that this wonderful piece of software and device keeps on going? Off course there is always open source and fork way and constant evolution, but there still has to be mothership Nokia constantly on background. Maemo has been, until now just money spending test and right now we are seeing first outreach to make it more profitable in future. IF Nokia doesn't manage to make it tasty enough device for large group of customers then we will see it fading away or merging to other companies etc. and community forks start popping as Nokia ends it supports and leaves it to hands of community. We will end up one of distrowatches endless stream of forks and tryouts. And then we can really sign "kumbaya" and hold each others hand and brainstorm, talk about stupidity of users and play with our little pet until end of world.

There is small group of people who really appreciate x term and all the nice functionalities of linux, but it isn't enough to make profit. You will never ever convert main part of people to appreciate the power of CLI and bash. People will not miraculously start reading manuals and want to learn more about their system. NO that will not happen. Big part of customers want apps that give them added value and are easily bought (itunes + credit card + content = full of win for customers and shareholders and developers, MONEY MONEY). This thing needs more magic and in my opinion this means that Nokia really needs to buy hundreds of quality apps to their coming ovi store service to make this device interesting enough to customers. They already have navigation, expect that not for N900 :| Magic will not happen by throwing this in open water and saying "Hey its OS looook!". People will look and go away :|

Whatever strategy Nokia has the first thing to think about is profit. Not open source or community. Profit my friends. That´s how business works.

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